RE: What is Atheism?
March 10, 2017 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2017 at 9:16 pm by Nonpareil.
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(March 10, 2017 at 8:09 pm)irontiger Wrote: This means you know shit, and your understanding is shit and you don't have an ounce of credentials for anything. You have no real thought of our own that can quantify into argument, because you don't have any knowledge of it .
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. I do not care.
(March 10, 2017 at 8:09 pm)irontiger Wrote: The best you can do is take shit from another Atheist and rehash it.
I haven't done anything other than point out that your understanding of atheism is demonstrably wrong. You think that it is a unified school of thought, when, in actuality, it is simply a lack of belief in gods, with absolutely no other riders or criteria attached to that. You also pointlessly idolize "Eastern" thinking, without realizing how your trying to cram all of Asian culture under one label like that really indicates a complete lack of understanding of the many and varied religions and philosophies there, and posit a dichotomy between western and eastern atheism that does not exist, because of the aforementioned not-being-a-school-of-thought thing.
Then you threw a shitfit, which is still ongoing, and have attempted to call into question others' credentials when this is not relevant to the discussion (because a Ph.D. is not necessary to point out that you don't know what the word "atheism" means), have not provided any credentials yourself (again, not that it would be relevant), and haven't actually given anybody any reason to want to provide you with them (because pearls before swine, and all that).
You really don't seem to have any idea how to hold a coherent conversation.
(March 10, 2017 at 8:53 pm)irontiger Wrote: I have not seen an Atheist bullshit like you and then malign the definition by adding the last part about "souls, ghosts, psychic powers, magic, or anything else"
This is the problem with Atheists in the West. They can't get a formal definition.
No, irontiger. We have a formal definition. I have just given it to you. It is "a lack of belief in gods".
Literally nothing else is relevant, and there is no requirement for atheists to eschew beliefs in ghosts, souls, karma, aliens, psychic powers, or anything else. Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is not a philosophy. Atheism comes with no restrictions or requirements. Atheism is literally just lack of belief in gods. This is true whether you are in the west or the east.
That you see this as a problem is no one's issue but your own.
(March 10, 2017 at 8:53 pm)irontiger Wrote: Atheism in the East is different in that aspect. A group or individual determines that not to accept the current or particular or popular philosophy. A new philosophy is formed may it be theistic or atheistic, write down the points, make sound arguments and deliver the message to others.
You are not describing atheism, irontiger. You are describing a philosophical school that happens to be atheistic.
And, in case you missed the memo, we have those here, too.
"Owl," said Rabbit shortly, "you and I have brains. The others have fluff. If there is any thinking to be done in this Forest - and when I say thinking I mean thinking - you and I must do it."
- A. A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner
- A. A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner