(March 14, 2017 at 7:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I could be wrong (you and especially Neo may clarify); but, I think that your post here is based less on evidence or reason, and more on assumptions and things not said by Neo.
On another thread I wrote about my experience with the ineffable. I said it was just my private experience and not meant to convince anyone. The reply came back that it was just my private experience and wouldn't convince anyone. Brian, clearly didn't read my post because I said the exact opposite of what he claimed I said. Par for the course. Some people, which may or may not include Brian, seem intent to dispute everything a theist says simply because they are a theist.
That's really the problem with personal experiences, they don't really mean anything. That's why people ask questions of theists who claim to have had some kind of spiritual experience and inevitably, those explanations just don't pan out rationally. Theists arbitrarily assign a cause to their supposed experience because it makes them feel good to think that cause was actually responsible, but they do not, at least not in my experience, have any way of demonstrating that the cause actually exists or actually had anything to do with the experience.
That's why these experiences are so pointless.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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