RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
April 5, 2017 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2017 at 4:25 pm by Pat Mustard.)
(April 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:(April 5, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: You said that a whole chapter of the first book of the bible can be safely disregarded. This is despite the fact that at many places in both the ot and nt it is stated that the bible has to be taken as inerrant in full.
Either you're right or your holy book, the whole foundation of your religion, is right. There is no middle ground.
In fairness to Steve, inerrancy =/= literalism.
Well considering that calling a book inerrant is the exact same as saying every detail in it is correct (inerrant=no errors, after all), I cannot see how you can take the bible to be inerrant and not be a literalist.
(April 5, 2017 at 12:35 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 5, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: You said that a whole chapter of the first book of the bible can be safely disregarded. [1] This is despite the fact that at many places in both the ot and nt it is stated that the bible has to be taken as inerrant in full.[2]
Either you're right or your holy book, the whole foundation of your religion, is right. There is no middle ground. [3]
1. How in the world do you jump to a Christian does not need to have "a specific view on Genesis 1" to "safely disregarded"?
2. Where? Also, in the context of any verse you might dig up, what constituted "the Bible"?
3. You don't understand what you are talking about. You imagine some sort of dilemma that you can speak of in some sort of broad strokes. What does the doctrine of inerrancy actually mean (and where does it come from)? Are there different view/levels? Applied to which of the 66 books? Which translation(s) in which language? Is it the same as biblical literalism? Is it necessary to believe the doctrine to be a Christian?
1 To not have a specific view on something means you've disregarded it. Or is your grasp of the English language as bad as your grasp of science?
2 Matthew 5:18
Quote:For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.If that is not a christian statement that the old testament is inerrant and to be considered true in full, then I don't know what is.
3 There are three rules a) Never start a land war in Asia, b) never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line, c) never debate the bible with a Brothers taught atheist. I'm rule c) and you know fuck all about the book you profess to be the centre of your religion.
(April 5, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
Oh dear, the idiot who previously accused others of trolling them is now attempting to troll himself. Very mature, Wooters.
A word of advice you'll never hear (because you put me on ignore, running scared of the fact that you had no counter to my arguments) learn to think, learn to dispute, learn to debate. It'll get you a lot farther than mindlessly trying to shout everybody else down.
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