(April 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm)SteveII Wrote:Yes, it really is cherry picking as you leave out the parts you don't like but that Jesus himself did like. See below.(April 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Crunchy Wrote: This is just cherry picking.
No Bible, no Christianity. Christianity is the Bible. All of it including the bad parts. Just because you have personally chosen to redact the bad parts from your mind does not mean that we can all safely ignore the murderous parts and murderous past of Christianity.
No, it's really not cherry picking. The NT was all God's revelation up to the time of Christ--culminating with the birth, life, teaching, death and resurrection of God incarnate. It then provided a new framework (unlike the OT framework) whereby we could have a relationship with God and provides detailed instructions on living.
Quote:What point/justification/meaning do you think you have by going back a 1300 years before Christ to pull in some stories that were written down 600-700 years after the events and this somehow changes Christ's message on how to relate to God and live your life? It seems you are spouting atheist bullet points but don't quite know when to use them.
I attended private Catholic school until I was 19 years old and some of my instructors were priests. I know the bible and below you will find the justification as stated by Jesus.
Quote:“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19
“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)
You, like every other apologist, are redacting the bible in your mind and expecting that to "prove" your version is the correct version. As I told you already, this mental redaction you engage in does not mean that we can all safely ignore the murderous parts and murderous past of Christianity.
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.