(July 12, 2011 at 4:36 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Is there, according to you, more than one..?Hehe
(July 12, 2011 at 4:37 am)thebigfudge Wrote: Well if personal experience counted, then everyone's personal experience must count ? . Ie Islam, Christianity, Scientology, Hinduism, pyschic's, Nessie believers, bhuddists. ( this list could go on and on, but I am sure you get my point)This would bring up numerous contradictions. so NO personal experience does not count.You're talking a different subject to mine. I certainly don't have all the answers in either area, no.
Quote:All of those experiences do count. If we're talking Christianity then only experiences relevant to Christiany count. God is wider than Christianity though, so we can't limit him to acting solely within that tradition. The bible also states that all people will be drawn to God.I was talking about recorded/ shared observations.
Personal experience tho', is valid to the person.
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What observations are you talking about, can you elaborate ?
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I don't have all the answers Frodo, and neither do you. That doesn't mean that there aren't any.
The bible's cosmology is inline with cosmology of the time... ie it was functional rather than material. Yes, God didn't educate the Israelites outside of their understanding at the time. His message is about how his truth applies to our situation. His point is not to put his identity beyond belief, because above all he values love.
Observation: All history is evidence of God, given God. Sure. I don't claim exclusivity, just coherence. You can accept that or not, it's up to you. My belief puts me in one camp, sure. To come to that belief involved no bias. Weighing up the information I concluded with no doubt my agreement with the information presented.
God is self evident > given God. God cannot be disproven. Nothing is contradictory there.