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Why are atheist...atheist?
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RE: Why are atheist...atheist?
(July 12, 2011 at 4:36 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Is there, according to you, more than one..? Big Grin
Hehe Big Grin

(July 12, 2011 at 4:37 am)thebigfudge Wrote: Well if personal experience counted, then everyone's personal experience must count ? . Ie Islam, Christianity, Scientology, Hinduism, pyschic's, Nessie believers, bhuddists. ( this list could go on and on, but I am sure you get my point)This would bring up numerous contradictions. so NO personal experience does not count.
Quote:All of those experiences do count. If we're talking Christianity then only experiences relevant to Christiany count. God is wider than Christianity though, so we can't limit him to acting solely within that tradition. The bible also states that all people will be drawn to God.

Personal experience tho', is valid to the person.

[quote='thebigfudge' pid='153557' dateline='1310459838']
What observations are you talking about, can you elaborate ?
I was talking about recorded/ shared observations.

[quote='Rhythm' pid='153589' dateline='1310478265']
I don't have all the answers Frodo, and neither do you. That doesn't mean that there aren't any.
You're talking a different subject to mine. I certainly don't have all the answers in either area, no.

The bible's cosmology is inline with cosmology of the time... ie it was functional rather than material. Yes, God didn't educate the Israelites outside of their understanding at the time. His message is about how his truth applies to our situation. His point is not to put his identity beyond belief, because above all he values love.

Observation: All history is evidence of God, given God. Sure. I don't claim exclusivity, just coherence. You can accept that or not, it's up to you. My belief puts me in one camp, sure. To come to that belief involved no bias. Weighing up the information I concluded with no doubt my agreement with the information presented.
God is self evident > given God. God cannot be disproven. Nothing is contradictory there.

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Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Cinjin - July 11, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Cinjin - July 12, 2011 at 1:02 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Minimalist - July 12, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Minimalist - July 12, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2011 at 4:07 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by thebigfudge - July 12, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2011 at 4:29 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by thebigfudge - July 12, 2011 at 4:37 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 6:42 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - July 12, 2011 at 8:52 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - July 12, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 12, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - July 12, 2011 at 1:29 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 1:53 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Kayenneh - July 12, 2011 at 4:24 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Kayenneh - July 12, 2011 at 4:36 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - July 12, 2011 at 6:38 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Autechre - July 12, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 9:44 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 4:05 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by leo-rcc - July 12, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 12, 2011 at 12:31 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 12, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Sciwoman - July 12, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Kayenneh - July 12, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 12, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 6:28 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 7:05 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 13, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by ipnaf - July 12, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 3:22 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Violet - July 12, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Violet - July 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Violet - July 12, 2011 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Rayaan - July 12, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 12, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by 5thHorseman - July 12, 2011 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by 5thHorseman - July 12, 2011 at 4:09 pm
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RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 4:54 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 12, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Kayenneh - July 12, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 12, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Violet - July 12, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 12, 2011 at 6:30 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by bozo - July 12, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by bozo - July 12, 2011 at 6:28 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - July 12, 2011 at 6:31 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by SleepingDemon - July 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2011 at 8:55 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by theVOID - July 13, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by theVOID - July 13, 2011 at 11:10 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by downbeatplumb - July 13, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by SleepingDemon - July 12, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 12, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by 5thHorseman - July 13, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by MilesTailsPrower - July 13, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2011 at 8:22 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 13, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 13, 2011 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by thebigfudge - July 13, 2011 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by DaveD - July 13, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Anomalocaris - July 13, 2011 at 8:25 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by DaveD - July 13, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 13, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Justtristo - July 13, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 14, 2011 at 7:28 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2011 at 10:30 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 14, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Justtristo - July 14, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2011 at 6:47 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Jaysyn - July 14, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2011 at 11:57 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by theVOID - July 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 14, 2011 at 6:37 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 14, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 14, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by DaveD - July 14, 2011 at 6:55 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 14, 2011 at 7:04 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 14, 2011 at 7:20 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 14, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 14, 2011 at 10:13 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Ace Otana - July 14, 2011 at 10:18 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Doubting Thomas - July 14, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 14, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by theVOID - July 14, 2011 at 9:03 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by fr0d0 - July 15, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 15, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by reverendjeremiah - July 14, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 15, 2011 at 8:05 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - July 15, 2011 at 8:20 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 15, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 15, 2011 at 10:41 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 15, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - July 15, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Napoléon - July 15, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Minimalist - July 14, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - July 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2011 at 10:07 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2011 at 8:11 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by thebigfudge - July 15, 2011 at 8:33 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by thebigfudge - July 15, 2011 at 10:53 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by krazedkat - July 19, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Alastor - July 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by TheAtheistTroll - August 7, 2011 at 6:23 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by weakagnostic - July 22, 2011 at 9:59 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 10:24 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2011 at 10:36 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Frosty - August 6, 2011 at 9:23 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2011 at 10:31 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by FalseHope - August 6, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by zip_ster - August 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Cinjin - August 16, 2011 at 7:09 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by popeyespappy - August 16, 2011 at 10:20 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Epimethean - August 16, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 2:53 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Faith No More - August 17, 2011 at 2:54 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Justtristo - August 17, 2011 at 7:18 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 9:53 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Captain Scarlet - August 17, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by RachelSkates - August 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - August 19, 2011 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by padraic - August 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm
RE: Why are atheist...atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm
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