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What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
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RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
(April 6, 2017 at 4:06 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(April 6, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Crunchy Wrote: Nice appeal to authority but it won't work. For your information, there is much disagreement from actual biblical scholars so once again all your left with is your own cherry picked interpretation of which scholar you choose to believe. 

Bart Ehrman is a well respected biblical scholar and thinks much of the new testament was forged. Since he is a biblical scholar, I'm sure you'll agree with him right? Right?
http://www.bartdehrman.com/forged-writin...me-of-god/


So, the truth remains the same: The mental redaction you engage in does not mean that we can all safely ignore the murderous parts and murderous past of Christianity.

You don't know what appeal to authority is. 

Regarding what you think is a good argument, answer these 5 questions and then we can discuss:

1. What is Matthew chapter 5 (the whole chapter) known as and what is it's significance to the listener raised in Judaism? 
2. What is the meaning of "fulfill" in verses 17 and 18? Please use the Greek and be specific.
3. What does the word "commandments" mean in verse 19? Again, use the Greek and be specific.
4. What is the context of the attack in verse 20--immediately following these verses?
5. What in up with the list of expanded "laws" that culminate in verse 48? What is the significance of this new teaching? 

BTW, your site, where you cut and pasted from in your other post is not going to answer these questions. 

Bart Ehrman is a NT skeptic with an important-to-note bias--he does not believe in God.  Am is supposed to type out a list of scholars who disagree with him? That would be an appeal to authority. 

You have shown no truth to remain--just tired out arguments that you don't know even know much about--despite your Catholic school education--until you were 19!

No, actually you don't know what appeal to authority is because you fail to see the age of of your book and the time it was written in. It was written under kings whom falsely attributed their rule as being an authority handed down to them from above. 

You are falling for appeal to authority, not us. Your God character is the cosmic king. The language of the bible uses words like "kingdom" and "lord" and "master". The subjects under royal rule even in polytheism would argue that the success of that local city state was the result of a "divine right" handed to that royalty.

That book was written by the populations of that time for the societies of that time.

(April 6, 2017 at 4:06 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(April 6, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Crunchy Wrote: Nice appeal to authority but it won't work. For your information, there is much disagreement from actual biblical scholars so once again all your left with is your own cherry picked interpretation of which scholar you choose to believe. 

Bart Ehrman is a well respected biblical scholar and thinks much of the new testament was forged. Since he is a biblical scholar, I'm sure you'll agree with him right? Right?
http://www.bartdehrman.com/forged-writin...me-of-god/


So, the truth remains the same: The mental redaction you engage in does not mean that we can all safely ignore the murderous parts and murderous past of Christianity.

You don't know what appeal to authority is. 

Regarding what you think is a good argument, answer these 5 questions and then we can discuss:

1. What is Matthew chapter 5 (the whole chapter) known as and what is it's significance to the listener raised in Judaism? 
2. What is the meaning of "fulfill" in verses 17 and 18? Please use the Greek and be specific.
3. What does the word "commandments" mean in verse 19? Again, use the Greek and be specific.
4. What is the context of the attack in verse 20--immediately following these verses?
5. What in up with the list of expanded "laws" that culminate in verse 48? What is the significance of this new teaching? 

BTW, your site, where you cut and pasted from in your other post is not going to answer these questions. 

Bart Ehrman is a NT skeptic with an important-to-note bias--he does not believe in God.  Am is supposed to type out a list of scholars who disagree with him? That would be an appeal to authority. 

You have shown no truth to remain--just tired out arguments that you don't know even know much about--despite your Catholic school education--until you were 19!

(April 6, 2017 at 2:52 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Acceptance of divorce has done a 180 among the majority of American Christians in my lifetime.

Do you think that has changed anything about what it means to be a Christian for the past 2000 years?

All it takes to buy the position of "Christian" is "I buy the position that the God of the Bible is real and Jesus is his son". 

What has changed, and actually it was NOT 2000 years since the first bible was officially voted on FYI. What has changed is that over time Christians got tired of the barbarity and REAL human empathy lead them to cherry pick and look for excuses not to do those barbaric things. But even in modern times we have still seen those same Christians whom supported Hitler and Stalin justify their rule. In America we saw Christians use the bible to justify slavery, denial of women's right to vote, genocide of Native Americans. Even today we still have both America's right wing Christians on the same page as Russian Christians whom are the majority in that country condemning  LGBT.

Of course things have changed, but not because of Christianity, but because of our species REAL evolutionary empathy.

And again, here is what I can do that you refuse to do.

I will never claim that the root of human morality is in the label "atheist". I don't agree with every atheist, I don't like all the atheists I meet, but I wont say they are not atheists because they do and or say things I don't like. 

Our species morality is outside labels and in our genes.
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RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian? - by Brian37 - April 6, 2017 at 4:14 pm

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