(April 7, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Jesster Wrote:(April 7, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see my stance on this (as I copied and pasted below) as "No True Scotsman." I see it as a completely reasonable distinction.
Disowning them as not true Christians is sometimes just a convenient way to make yourself appear cleaner. What does that change for the rest of the world? They're still there calling themselves Christians with plenty of arguments to back them up. They're still a self-proclaimed Christian group acting like dicks and making people dislike Christians. The problem doesn't go away like this.
At least I still see a lot of Christians calling them out for their actions and trying to correct them, so it's not like this is being ignored entirely. That's good.
(April 7, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you don't believe Jesus was the son of God, your beliefs are not in line with Christianity. If you blatantly do the exact opposite of what Jesus Himself teaches us, then you are not living a Christian life.
I agree that believing Jesus was the son of God is a base requirement of Christianity. WBC falls in line with this. If you want to have a debate about what a Christian should act like, you should tell them. Telling me won't change anything at all. I still see two groups calling themselves true Christians and nothing improving because of it.
Again, I'm not saying who is/isn't a true Christian.
I'm pointing out who is/isn't living by the teachings of Jesus Himself as stated in the Bible. Jesus specifically said that one of the greatest commandants is to "love your neighbor as yourself." He specifically said we should love everyone, even our enemies. If someone is doing/promoting the exact opposite of those things, there is nothing out of line about me pointing out that they are going against the direct teachings of Christ.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
