(April 7, 2017 at 4:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(April 7, 2017 at 2:46 pm)Jesster Wrote: Okay, that's fine. That still changes nothing from a perspective outside of Christianity, though. Telling an atheist how you think a Christian should act doesn't change how other Christians act. All I end up seeing is a wide umbrella of Christianity that involves both good and terrible people. This is partially why religion is meaningless to me. I prefer to judge individuals for their own actions.
That is fair enough.
To be fair to you CL I don't even like some pockets of current attempts of atheists creating "atheist churches". "Off is not a religion, it merely means off. Like any for profit or not profit org, most set up a list of goals and a "model" to follow.
Atheists also do stupid shit to avoid calling themselves atheists. We try to avoid the word by calling ourselves a variety of things, from humanists, to freethinkers to "brites". All nonsense to me even with atheists. I stand by the statement that evolution is in our genes, our cruelty and compassion is in our genes, and that also applies to atheists.
While I do see religion as a horrible way of conducting political diplomacy, I could also not see a conflict free world if all 7 billion of us were atheists either. We would still seek resources, still have different views and still compete politically to control those resources.
I still don't think anyone needs a religion, but I also don't think it would be a utopia if everyone were atheists too.