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What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
(April 7, 2017 at 6:15 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Catholic_Lady Wrote:I'd say believing that Jesus is who He says He is, and striving to live by the teachings of Christ as depicted in the bible. 

And there goes most of the Christian population again. 'Striving to live by the teachings of Christ' would be a gross exaggeration of the effort most American Christians put into actually trying to live by the teachings of Jesus as depicted in the Bible.

I think you could start by knocking off all the ones who aren't welcoming to foreigners, are pro-war, or unsympathetic to poor people or convicts. The ones who haven't taken the time to actually read an entire Bible. Most of the ones who show up to church once a month or less.

It's a pretty long list, and that's only for 'striving', not succeeding. Most of those folks aren't even trying. They're putting in the least effort they think they can get away with to avoid hell and the anger of their neighbors, and keeping the opinions that suit them personally whenever possible, which seems to be almost always.

See, that's the thing though. You say most Christians hate foreigners, like war, and don't have compassion for poor people/imprisoned people. I simply don't see that. What you describe above seems like really shitty people, and that has simply not been my experience. I mean, sure, there are bad seeds everywhere and we are no exception, but it has definitely not been my experience that most Christian people, or even many of them, are like that at all. I can't say I even know any Christian people being that way (not saying they don't exist though).   

I mean, my family and I were foreigners. We moved to the US from South America when I was 7 years old, and while we have become citizens since then, both my parents still have really heavy accents. No one was unwelcoming to us when we got here. I started off here at a Catholic school (2nd grade) and knew absolutely 0 English. None of those Catholic teachers/students/parents were ever mean to me or my family.  

I don't see anyone liking war, either. Or not having compassion for the poor. There are a TON of Christian charities. My church was always advertising volunteer opportunities and running fund raisers for the less fortunate.

I'm not saying we're all saints. Far from it. But I do think the majority of us are just normal human beings who really do try to follow the basic teachings of Christ. Again, I have lived in several places, but never lived in the deep south like you have, so maybe that's where our different experiences come to play.

(April 7, 2017 at 8:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This is a famous comedy skit, but it does demonstrate how Christians twist what is a horrific act into some Disney movie. 


To clarify, we definitely don't think the crucifiction was anything other than a horrific, evil act. What we think is beautiful was the love and sacrifice Jesus made for us by having gone through it when He could have saved Himself. But the act itself of crucifying people (especially an innocent man like Jesus) is pure evil. The day that we remember the death of Jesus on the cross (Good Friday) is a somber day of prayer and reflection, not celebration. It's definitely not a Disney Movie.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian? - by Catholic_Lady - April 8, 2017 at 10:54 am

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