(April 8, 2017 at 11:54 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:I think it is interesting that you mention ad hominem's here. My comment was based on observation, and I gave one reason (although I'm open to others) for why we see this incoherence. This post however seems to be mostly about discrediting and poisoning the well; about the person. I would also say that this is an apt example of an often occurring response when the deficiencies of a modernist philosophy are brought up in these conversations. That is to attack the person and redirect attention.(April 8, 2017 at 9:46 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Pseudoskepticsm is one of the possibilities. What do you think?
Just because you're butt hurt over not having any good arguments for your position, don't commit ad homs on the rest of us.
We are rightly sceptical of Jesus claims for the simple fact that there is no evidence at all supporting them. There is the claim, and that's it.
Now to the second part. I think this is fitting, what often follows is an example of the classic foundationalism that was brought up. That an extreme and untenable position is taken, in order to keep even the consideration of the conclusion from being made. I think that you will find yourself quite impoverished intellectually, if we followed it consistently. Which is why this philosophy has fallen out of popularity for most thinkers.
This is mostly out of context to the OP, but I wanted to clarify my intentions with some comments. I'm not meaning to disparage others, but hope to shine a light on what is bad thinking. I don't really keep track of; nor hold this against people. But perhaps bringing it up will help you to see when it is occurring. And I have often found, that extreme examples of bad thinking help me to notice the more subtle versions within my own thinking. I may also find it more often than I realized that it was occurring. It's not against the man, but against the idea and method. I'm not assuming anyone motivation, and holding it against them and their arguments. It's a tentative conclusion based on what is seen.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther