(April 14, 2017 at 1:51 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(April 14, 2017 at 1:42 pm)SteveII Wrote: I would say they have a problem with evidence. Supernatural revelations that only one person hears has got to be the lowest level of evidence possible (especially as the only evidence). There are no miracles to speak of and no witnesses to compelling events that back up claims of truth.There are mosques, people who believe, and "witness testimony" of events that..while still tenuous in my opinion, are orders of magnitude better in quality than those possess by the NT.
What did those people believe? Not events, they took one person's word for something. What witness testimony of what event? You couldn't possibly believe the evidence for Islam is better than the NT.
Quote:Quote:Additionally, it is my understanding that Mohammad tone changed and inconsistencies over the course of writing--which is interesting since it was supposed to have been revealed from Gabriel--who probably would have been more consistent. It is also my understanding that the teachings on Jesus and other matters were clearly influenced by existing works that were circulating in the Arab world.As many narratives in the NT have more than one author or source, or tell slightly different tales of the same event. Strange, since it's all supposed to have been guided by god, somehow, who probably would have been more consistent? OTOH, it;s easy for me to understand that human booking has limits.....so?
It's also -our- understanding that the teaching -of- jesus and other matters in the NT were clearly influenced by existing works that were circulating in the mediterranean world.
More than one narrative that tells a slightly different version is exactly what you want. Identical stories would be suspect.
To compare apples to apples, what things did Jesus say that were "borrowed" from another source that didn't quite get the historical consensus right on closer inspection?
