RE: Debunking the "God is Beyond Time" xtian response
April 18, 2017 at 7:31 am
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2017 at 7:41 am by chimp3.)
(April 17, 2017 at 12:35 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Greetings, AF-ers!I would have asked her what the "core" is. If the story is accurate at it's core then did god create a pair of every animal all at once? Create plants before sunlight? Woman from a mans rib? If none of that is accurate but only an allegory of gods omniscience then how does Christianity follow? Is the resurrection an allegory told by scientificly illiterate peoples? If the magic of the resurrection is true then why not the magic of 6 day creation? So many questions to find bullshit answers to. That is why they call it faith.
So. I played the Easter Vigil Mass at a Catholic Church on Saturday evening. I was sitting beside a friend who is in the medical profession - very intelligent, very scientifically-oriented. Her understanding of evolutionary biology is much stronger than mine. At the Vigil, they read the "Creation story", the "Exodus", and a whole bunch of other evil bullshit. So, at one point, I just said - "So, the creation story is a complete myth, right?" -- expecting her to agree. She didn't. Her response is "No, not exactly. It's just not couched in scientific terms, because it was written down by people who didn't have that knowledge. But I believe that it is accurate at it's core, because GOD exists OUTSIDE OF TIME." Well. It wasn't a good time for a debate. This debate may never come up, really. Her Father is not well - she's stressed.
But I know that I have read good responses to that "beyond time" fallacy. I just can't find them at the moment. I did a search for a thread here, (I'm pretty sure SOMEBODY brought it up!) -- haven't found that yet either. It boggles the mind, because as far as we can tell, nothing in this universe is "beyond time". And she certainly has no evidence for her assertion.
But if anyone has a really good explanation for why this is a fallacy, an illogical dodge - - or can point me to a good source - - I need to study! Thanks team!
-- Fuzz
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!