(April 18, 2017 at 3:27 pm)dyresand Wrote: god cannot exist out of space time because if he wanted into interact or even kick start the expansion he/she/it couldn't be out the outside
since there was no outside of the tiny spec that was our universe. To say there was nothing outside is to say there was something because even
in a empty vacuum stuff does happen there is no true empty space. So given that in the confines of the universe god would have had to been inside said tiny spec
when it eventually expanded. But even still outside out of the universe there is no outside to speak out unless there is *multiverse then even still one cannot make
that argument.
The word "all" is the loophole theists use, of course it doesn't work, but that is the fantasy they create to justify anything. If you are "all powerful" you can be both inside and outside time at the same time. You have "all" the options.
But again, you are still stuck with "which one" and infinite regress.
Even at simply a moral level, if God can do anything he wants, then he is certainly capable of lying. If he cant lie then he is not all powerful. If he can lie, then the follower wont be able to tell if they are being lied to. That puts the follower in the position of being manipulated, like a toy.
So you are still stuck with "which one" on top of if he is "all powerful" then he has to logically speaking also be capable of NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL.
It makes much more sense to me that there is no such thing as a God or anything supernatural and the only thing we can aspire to as a species is caring about our fellow human during our finite ride now.
