RE: Debunking the "God is Beyond Time" xtian response
April 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm by Simon Moon.)
(April 25, 2017 at 1:52 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(April 25, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: The problem I have with it is, that it uses a definition of he word "exists" (as in, "god exists outside of time") that is meaningless.
Existence is necessarily temporal. How would something exist in no time? That seems identical to saying it does not exist.
Now, I've heard some theists say that god exists outside our time, but he exists in a realm of meta-time. So, that begs the question, who create the realm of meta-time that god exists in?
I have two questions here. Does time exist? If so, does time exist within itself?
There is something that we perceive as time, that exists.
Time exists as an attribute of our universe.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.