(April 26, 2017 at 9:17 pm)Manga Wrote:Of course not, a controlled experiment is set up beforehand, not based on what someone said afterwards. How do we know that person didn't see a pink cloth before (or after) surgery was performed on them? We have nobodies word but their own. That's not controlled. Being able to pick 1 out of 3 doctors? Not exactly amazing, maybe they knew which one was the surgeon or maybe we don't hear about the 2 out of 3 people who were wrong in their pick. None of that is controlled. They are like the worlds shittiest magic tricks that you use on a small child. A controlled experiment is set up before hand with circumstances that we know the subject isn't privy to. This has been done before with NDEs. It was called the AWARE project and they placed easy to identify images on top of high shelves that would only be visible to an out of body experience. Surprise surprise, not a single one of the NDE people identified the images. You can read about it here: http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/10/aw...ter-death/(April 26, 2017 at 8:41 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There has never been any sort of 'carefully controlled' evidence for out of body experiences associated with NDE. Actually that's not true, there has been evidence where subjects were asked to identify what was an out of sight object on a bookshelf. Not shockingly 100% failure rate. All the evidence I've ever seen is based solely on the word of people going trauma, not on a set up experiment.
but wouldn't you say that the amount of people who were able to accurately report what happened in the hospitals while they were in trouble counts as carefully controlled evidence?
What's most likely happening with NDE is a release of DMT in the brain, known to cause vivid hallucinations and be released during times of extreme trauma. It's certainly more plausible then something supernatural, especially when the proof is saying that there is a pink cloth or picking 1 out of 3 correctly.
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