(April 27, 2017 at 1:19 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 27, 2017 at 11:52 am)Grandizer Wrote: There is no disconnect that I can see here, but this seems to fit well with compatibilism and if it's meant to be describing libertarian free will, it doesn't seem to provide a sufficient description.
The disconnect, if you need one, is in the elaboration you provided in this quote below:
I already explained what's wrong with this description in my previous response.
Then it seems you are asserting that only physical brain states are responsible for decisions. The only support I know for that conclusion is to presuppose naturalism (it can be no other way). If that is your reasoning, it is question begging. Is there another reason to believe that that is all that is happening?
Um no, evolution and neurology as sciences don't claim that everything our bodies do is either only subconscious or or only always aware. Our brain stem regulates all our organs and that part we have no control over. It is not either/or but depends on what we are talking about. Your brain allows both conscious and subconscious decisions.
I can chose to type this sentence, I cannot chose to have my fingertips feel the keyboard unless I amputate my hand and I cant chose to have a neurological disease, not that I have one, but I cant chose that which could cause me to lose neurological control over parts of my body or my senses.
And stop projecting the word "presuppose" on us. That is your bullshit, not ours. Evolution is proven science, neurology is proven science. If scientists want to prove something they don't have to simply mentally masturbate, they can prove it in a lab.
Presupposition is just another bullshit word for apology that theists use.
