(May 3, 2017 at 6:24 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(May 2, 2017 at 10:09 pm)KUSA Wrote: Drunks drive cars too. Let's ban the fast cars so drunks don't drive them.
False equivalence game is played by the NRA to confuse the issue. The primary purpose of cars is not violence. Nor, except in vanishingly small numbers, do five year olds kill their three year old sister with a car in the living room of their home.
(May 2, 2017 at 10:26 pm)Cecelia Wrote: You'll never win an argument with a gun nut--because there's one clear word in there. "Nut". You can't argue with someone who's crazy.
That's why I say "ardent gunner". With the obvious exception of my cousins most ardent gunners aren't crazy, they've just been sold a bill of goods by the folks who stand to profit from all this.
Thank you.
This is about the volume of injuries and deaths from both legal and illegally obtained guns. And the data has always shown that one is far more likely to injure themselves or someone in the home, and far less likely to successfully defend themselves from a complete stranger.
Never will anyone ever read me demand or hear me demand all guns be banned. But no, nobody needs big clips and nobody needs spray riffles. Nobody needs to be carrying a gun in public unless they have a job requiring it. I am for guns when are using them for hunting or home protection WITH vetting and training. Regulations are not bans. Just like mandated seat belts and speed limits are not anti car.
We make way too many and what vetting process we have is not universal and our laws are currently Swiss Cheese.
The way the far right screams, reminds me of trying to get my mom to do things safely. My mom would often snap at me and say "Why won't you let me do what I want", and I often would have to respond, "I am not saying you cant or should not, but you should do it safely regardless".I love my mom, but when there is a problem there is nothing wrong with pointing out that problem.
With the far right, and THE NRA, I have no patience. They have over the past 30 years needlessly scared the crap out of just enough of a MINORITY gun owners so much so, that MINORITY holds our entire nation hostage. And the NRA has wrongfully and viciously slurred liberals on the subject of guns. The NRA's demagoguery is nothing more than a scare tactic to protect the profits of the gun factories.