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Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3!
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RE: Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3!
(May 3, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: N.T Wright (leading British New Testament scholar, Pauline theologian, and retired Anglican bishop) - “I don’t know who the Gospel writers were and nor does anyone else...Not sure how it could be the minority of scholars, when a leading mainstream scholar (and hardly on the  fringe, and a Christian) states that it is the prevalent view.

Tom Wright is a fine scholar and a firm believer in the resurrection. So why do you cite him since you obviously disagree with him on the central issue? It's kind of like complaining that you aren't being hung with a new rope.

(May 4, 2017 at 7:58 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I've never had fatih.

That's too bad. I sincerely hope that soon you receive the internal testimony of the Holy Spirit.

(May 3, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: First of all, you need to explain what you mean by "undoubtedly real"...The question I asked though, is do you believe they were accurately abducted by aliens?

The UFO phenomena isn't a single thing. There are everything from night sky sightings of lights to abduction stories. But if we are going to focus on alien abductions then, I would have to say that something very real has happened to the abductees, something extraordinary and uncanny. By all accounts they are a strange mixture of physical and consciousness effects. Personally, I doubt that 'the Greys' are a physical species from another far away planet. At the same time the circumstances around some abduction stories suggest that they aren't purely psychological fabrications, either. Part of what makes it difficult to figure it out is that the phenomena don't fit within any pre-existing narrative or paradigm. I suppose it would make a great difference if I had shared such an experience or been close to someone who has. But I haven't so it's an esoteric topic for me.

On the other hand I do have experience with the divine, can apprehend it in the gospel accounts. These are not stories from long ago; but rather, an on-going story in which I am a participant. The resurrection account fits within and illuminated a pre-existing tradition that was hundreds of years old before it happened. It reaffirms my trust in the rational capacity of Man and the intelligibility of the world. So while I respect the analogy you are trying to draw (and from the outside it looks like a good one), I can only say that things look much differently to those who accept the testimony of the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3! - by Neo-Scholastic - May 4, 2017 at 9:12 am

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