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Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3!
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RE: Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3!
(May 9, 2017 at 2:45 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(May 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Exactly right. I want you to come out clearly and say that the evil of the Holocaust is not a moral fact. If someone has to explain to you why it was wrong then you wouldn't understand anyway.

The evil of the Holocaust is not a moral fact.  It is a moral opinion held by myself, and most people. 
There are plenty of people who hold a different opinion of the Holocaust.  
Do you deny that the people with a difference of opinion on this topic exist?

(p.s.  Just because you cannot fathom why a person holds a certain moral opinion does not make your position fact.  I cannot understand how anyone views the holocaust as anything but a monstrosity, yet they do.)

Oh, and I have a perfect "for instance".  For instance, I would call a creator drowning all but a handful of his sentient creations (genocide) pretty clearly Evil.
I'm willing to bet you will dispute that God's act, in this instance, is evil, even though it seems pretty obvious to me!  That's because it's an opinion, not a fact.

I would also call the Levites killing 3000 people, and keeping the virgins alive for sexual indenture is also a pretty fucking heinous moral crime.  And yet I'm willing to bet you would defend this also.

And countless other similar examples.  What seems morally reprehensible to one person is defended by another person, who does not have to be morally reprehensible themselves to defend it.

I always love the holocaust example . For the fact it is the greatest example in my opinion to the fault of holding morality as an objective moral fact predicated on authority . To the Nazi's killing the Jews was not just an opinion. It was an OBJECTIVE moral fact that Jews were evil and degenerate. And that all other groups and cultures were inferior to the Aryans and that the killing our breeding them out was objectively good. And doing differently was morally abhorrent . The problem with groups like the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany was not that they rejected religion. (they didn't ) But that they took all the worst elements of religious morality.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Why science and religious fatih need not be in conflict: It's as easy as 1-2-3! - by Amarok - May 9, 2017 at 4:06 pm

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