RE: Rabbi talks about Isaiah 7:14
May 26, 2017 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2017 at 10:49 pm by Minimalist.)
Quote:If non-existent and just made up conveniently for council of Nicea purposes, doesn't reflect well on history of the church.
Not really possible, V. Sometime between 185 and 202 when he died, Irenaeus wrote:
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103127.htm
Quote: Marcion of Pontus succeeded him, and developed his doctrine. In so doing, he advanced the most daring blasphemy against Him who is proclaimed as God by the law and the prophets, declaring Him to be the author of evils, to take delight in war, to be infirm of purpose, and even to be contrary to Himself. But Jesus being derived from that father who is above the God that made the world, and coming into Judæa in the times of Pontius Pilate the governor, who was the procurator of Tiberius Cæsar, was manifested in the form of a man to those who were in Judæa, abolishing the prophets and the law, and all the works of that God who made the world, whom also he calls Cosmocrator. Besides this, he mutilates the Gospel which is according to Luke, removing all that is written respecting the generation of the Lord, and setting aside a great deal of the teaching of the Lord, in which the Lord is recorded as most dearly confessing that the Maker of this universe is His Father. He likewise persuaded his disciples that he himself was more worthy of credit than are those apostles who have handed down the Gospel to us, furnishing them not with the Gospel, but merely a fragment of it. In like manner, too, he dismembered the Epistles of Paul, removing all that is said by the apostle respecting that God who made the world
Irenaeus and the slightly later writer, Tertullian wrote 125 years prior to Nicaea and neither could have possibly known that the bullshit story they were then pushing would grow to attain political power by backing the right horse in one of Rome's innumerable civil wars.
Marcion is one of the keys.
