(May 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 29, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Bunburryist Wrote: You're real close. You're right. A default materialist might call This Experience "a brain image" or "a subjective experience" or a "qualia world" or something else. But those are loaded phrases that come right out of the materialist dictionary. We need a neutral phrase. That's why I use This Experience. To me it's also very important that it's something the average non-philosopher can relate to. Also, by using a new phrase, it carries along with it the idea that I'm trying to get at something different from the materialist-idealist debate. Not even close.We do have a new-neutral phrase. It's a representation.
That's not neutral. It's right out of the materialist dictionary. It Implies that This Experience IS a representation. Your just assuming the materialist view by using that very word. Using my cat analogy, that's like saying, when I suggest using "animal" for a neutral pointer, your responding - "We already have a neutral phrase - it's a feline. I know my phraseology is different. It's different for a reason. I don't know if this will ever actually get that far, but when it gets to the point where materialism is questioned, we don't want to have materialist-laden terminology holding us back. "This Experience" is about as neutral as one can get. By the way, nothing I'm doing here, at this point, is in any way anti-materialist. Just the opposite. Stick we me and I think you'll see I'm actually playing hard-ball materialism.
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