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An intro to my non-materialist view
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RE: An intro to my non-materialist view
(May 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 29, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Bunburryist Wrote: You're real close.  You're right.  A default materialist might call This Experience  "a brain image" or "a subjective experience" or a "qualia world" or something else.  But those are loaded phrases that come right out of the materialist dictionary.  We need a neutral phrase.  That's why I use This Experience.  To me it's also very important that it's something the average non-philosopher can relate to.  Also, by using a new phrase, it carries along with it the idea that I'm trying to get at something different from the materialist-idealist debate.  Not even close.
We do have a new-neutral phrase.  It's a representation.  

That's not neutral.  It's right out of the materialist dictionary.  It Implies that This Experience IS a representation.  Your just assuming the materialist view by using that very word.  Using my cat analogy, that's like saying, when I suggest using "animal" for a neutral pointer, your responding - "We already have a neutral phrase - it's a feline.  I know my phraseology is different.  It's different for a reason.  I don't know if this will ever actually get that far, but when it gets to the point where materialism is questioned, we don't want to have materialist-laden terminology holding us back.  "This Experience" is about as neutral as one can get.  By the way, nothing I'm doing here, at this point, is in any way anti-materialist.  Just the opposite.  Stick we me and I think you'll see I'm actually playing hard-ball materialism.
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An intro to my non-materialist view - by Bunburryist - May 29, 2017 at 1:22 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Angrboda - May 29, 2017 at 5:07 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Sal - May 29, 2017 at 6:19 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by chimp3 - May 29, 2017 at 6:24 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by chimp3 - May 29, 2017 at 9:01 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by brewer - May 29, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Alex K - May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Alex K - May 29, 2017 at 2:55 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by brewer - May 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by brewer - May 29, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Bunburryist - May 29, 2017 at 9:42 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Angrboda - May 30, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by Amarok - June 3, 2017 at 9:40 pm
RE: An intro to my non-materialist view - by brewer - June 2, 2017 at 7:49 am

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