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Believe:
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RE: Believe:
Hey again,

Hello EvF, thank you for your post. I really quite appreciate the level of respect I assumed from it. You pose some valid and concise questions.

The unfortunate answer to 'Where is god?' has to be that she is everywhere. More literally, she is everything. I say it's unfortunate because I know that doesn't explain it, or I think hold much value for you. I wouldn't quite classify god as invisible or especially intangible. She doesn't really fit into 'visible/invisible', and is very, very tangible to many people other than you. They may be mistaken, but you may be as well. God is most certainly immaterial though, except for people who worship MoneyGod™. We tell the difference between a universe with god and one without by picking one. We either live in a universe with god, and we have no concept of one without, or vice versa. I kind of believe that whether or not we think there is or is not a god... There just is or is not god.

There, to me, is no 'real' evidence. The evidence of a god/godless world is all around us. Everything can be cast as evidence, but it is how we interpret the evidence that we see the world. I cannot offer some evidence you have not already seen (not completely), only suggest we have made different assumptions and conclusions.

I wouldn't call it 'safe' to assume his/her non-existence. It may be prudent, valid or realistic to you, but I can't sign off that it is necessarily safe. It isn't Pascal's Wager, I don't think belief in god is a big part of the judgement (if there is a judgement). My god wouldn't hold it against me if I denied her my whole life. She would laugh, and appreciate the irony of free-will. But my life is very much improved in quality by acknowledging that I am part of something far bigger than I dare imagine.

All of this is just my silly opinions and ideas, I am not trying to preach. I appreciate your questions, and wonder what your answers to them would be. Thank you for sharing.

"My father sold the second cow today",
-Pip
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Believe: - by g-mark - April 19, 2009 at 1:43 am
RE: Believe: - by dagda - April 19, 2009 at 4:32 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 19, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 19, 2009 at 11:24 am
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - April 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 4:41 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 20, 2009 at 6:32 am
RE: Believe: - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 7:48 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 20, 2009 at 8:34 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 4:02 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 4:32 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 22, 2009 at 4:23 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 5:27 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 11:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 23, 2009 at 5:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 23, 2009 at 8:46 pm
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 24, 2009 at 7:27 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 24, 2009 at 1:13 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 1:35 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 24, 2009 at 2:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 24, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 24, 2009 at 9:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 24, 2009 at 9:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 25, 2009 at 8:41 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 27, 2009 at 8:33 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 28, 2009 at 8:12 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 28, 2009 at 9:52 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 27, 2009 at 5:20 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 28, 2009 at 8:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 29, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 29, 2009 at 11:13 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 30, 2009 at 8:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 30, 2009 at 11:08 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 30, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 1, 2009 at 4:32 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 1, 2009 at 2:14 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 1, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 1, 2009 at 11:31 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 1, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Believe: - by padraic - May 1, 2009 at 10:02 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 2, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 2, 2009 at 8:32 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 2, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 5, 2009 at 6:28 am
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 2, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 3, 2009 at 4:45 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 3, 2009 at 4:52 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 3, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 3, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 4, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 4, 2009 at 5:44 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2009 at 6:48 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 4, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 4, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 4, 2009 at 9:07 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2009 at 9:36 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 5, 2009 at 3:55 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 5, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 6, 2009 at 5:28 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - May 6, 2009 at 1:08 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 6, 2009 at 1:36 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 6, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 6, 2009 at 9:26 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 7, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 10:30 pm
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 7, 2009 at 8:53 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 9:22 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 7, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 10:53 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 7, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 7, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 8, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 12:49 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 8, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Believe: - by Lotus - May 8, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 9:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by padraic - May 8, 2009 at 10:24 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: Believe: - by Lotus - May 9, 2009 at 7:55 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 9, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Believe: - by lilphil1989 - May 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 9, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 9, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - May 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Believe: - by Ace Otana - May 12, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Believe: - by Ace Otana - May 12, 2009 at 4:01 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:49 am
RE: Believe: - by lilphil1989 - May 13, 2009 at 4:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 12:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 4:07 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 14, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - May 15, 2009 at 10:51 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - May 15, 2009 at 10:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 12:52 pm

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