(June 1, 2017 at 5:55 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(June 1, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Secularism merely means "neutral" as in "neither for or against any label, but treat everyone equally under the law"
I don't see how atheism has anything to do with booze, or orgies in public, atheists are a MINORITY in America, Christians are the majority.
FYI in most locations outside your own house, or outside a bar, in most places in America drinking in public is ILLEGAL. And while there are nudist camps and even swingers clubs, not even sex in public is legal.
I love how some people work up this childish delusional "lawlessness" of the west.
I have a local gas station I walk to frequently to buy beer. Even if I had that beer in a paper bag, and was drinking it in public walking home, that would give a police officer probable cause to stop me, and if I was drunk, even without driving, arrest me. If I was not drunk, could still make me poor it out give me a warning, or write me a ticket for drinking in public.
The reality is I only have the right to buy the beer, NO DRINKING AND DRIVING, or even walking drunk, take my beer home and at best drink it in my back yard or on my porch or in my house.
The Middle East has a dominating understanding that labels "atheists" and "westerners" as overlords who control everything and drink and sex openly.
The defeated attitude is attributed to WW1's defeat of the Ottoman empire; that resulted in the full establishing of new countries that never existed; under the known agreement of Sykes-Picot.
Since the natives of these regions surrendered their fates and their future to the winning side in WW1, the resulting culture that dominated every of the newly created states was a culture of darkness, misunderstanding, confusion and chaos.
It's the Arabian Middle ages; dark ages.
So that's that. In the Middle East; irreligious = atheist.
Christian= wine and property
Blonde westerner= God
Black = the "N" word. AKA Abd in the local tongue.
Whiskey= civilization
Ask why this region never advance.
SteelCurtain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War
Correct me if I am wrong, but were you not the one that said in Saudi Arabia there is a dark web even conservative Muslims use to look at porn?
America has had an unfortunate history of colonialism and that part I don't like. While it should not be our job to play world's police, it is also physically impossible for ANY nation not to interact to some degree globally. Most westerners would prefer not to get into wars, although our war hawks in America have far too much of a tendency to control our military narrative.
But as far as booze and orgies in public, that is absolute nonsense. We do allow drinking, but not drinking and driving, not even drinking on a public sidewalk. Yes we do have strip joints, nudist clubs and even swingers clubs. But you are not going to hop on a public bus here and see a dozen people fucking each other, they would get arrested. Public sex is not legal.
The middle east has a dominating false perception, not an understanding, if they did understand they wouldn't be freaking out as much as they do.
