(June 5, 2017 at 5:46 am)Whateverist Wrote: Rik, did you know the theory of evolution (AKA natural selection) is specifically about a non-teleological process? If what you have in mind is that creatures change over time for the sake of achieving a higher state, you shouldn't call that 'evolution'. There is no higher or lower state to achieve from the perspective of natural selection. There is only the selection through survival and procreation of the form which best fits the available niche. That could just as easily involve a form which is a simpler creature with less restrictive anatomy and physiology. More complex is not always more adaptive.
You are talking about the materialistic point of view.
Even if 90% of the people may agree with you that doesn't mean that you are right.
You remember when some guy try to explain to the masses that the planet earth is not flat and is not the center of the universe?
Even then over 90% of the people thought that the guy was nut only to discover that is them that they were nuts.
The same story apply to the evolution of the species theory.
Most people don't take in any consideration that the reason why plants, animals and human evolve is all related to consciousness.
The consciousness is the driving force not anything else.
Even the matter after millions of years that lie in the latent or slumber stage feel like getting out that state.
Uranium and other minerals are the best example where the energy-consciousness try to escape.
Plants too are not happy to stay in that state.
Climbers plants move all the time in search for better conditions and so do animals and humans.
Everybody always try to improve and prosper and when you do this the consciousness expand.
This is the real evolution.
All the rest is fantasy.
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