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The empathy factor
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RE: The empathy factor
(June 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 4:14 pm)J a c k Wrote: Well, that's what I'm aiming for. I know what my goal is, but I want a strategy. I'm thinking maybe if I learn the science behind it, I can use the knowledge to help myself. Heh makes sense to me.

I'm not sure there is any "science" to find, at least not what I consider science. What do you think that science might be?

No science to find? Hmmm I can think of some. How about psychology? Neurology? Even biology? What about the science behind my medication? Behind the understanding of genes? I don't know, but it seems to me there are so many possibilities when you don't understand something. You start from scratch and find so many places to look. I'm open to them. I'm looking for something deeper that a simple "suck it up" instruction from a self help book. I want the why and how of it. I want to understand it. This isn't a habit to kill. It's something stronger than that.

(June 7, 2017 at 4:38 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 4:14 pm)J a c k Wrote: Well, that's what I'm aiming for. I know what my goal is, but I want a strategy. I'm thinking maybe if I learn the science behind it, I can use the knowledge to help myself. Heh makes sense to me.

It does make sense, and it can help, I think.  For one thing, you might realize you arent odd, crazy, or "overly emotional". You probably just have an abundance of mirror neorons and a very active amygdala. You can limit your unnecessary exposure. If your job exposes you a great deal, you can tell yourself that you are mirroring what others experience, and it can help detatch you.

Good luck on your learning endeavor.  Smile
I found some interesting information thanks to your response. It's exactly the type of stuff I was looking for. For some reason, therapy isn't very effective yet. I have so many questions and all I get to talk about is feelings. It's fine, but I kind of want information on the physical part of it.
Now I have a lead. Thanks.

(June 7, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Jack, as one social worker to another; you need to guard yourself.
To an extent, I know your strife. I too find it hard to shut off the balance between clients/work and your own life. It's why we are drawn to this kind of work as well as why it's difficult for us. It's not a surprise why, (at least in Belgian statistics,) so many social workers have burn-outs. It's an emotionally exhausting profession. You get critique from the higher ups, your colleagues, strangers and even your clients. You are always the middle-woman. You don't see the good case alll the way 'till the end to get that sense of accomplishment, only just far enough untill they don't need you. You however do see those stuck that you have to give it your all to just stop them from 'drowning'.

Can I ask you, how long have you been a social worker? I've been one for three years. It's only been a year since I've been able to seperate my own life from my work. The first two years were extremely draining. The third one is still, so far, but to a lesser extent.

Hello, one of my two fave newbies  Big Grin
I've worked in the field for about a decade, but in this specific job a little more than 3 years. I can't imagine doing anything else, because I'm good at this. I love helping people even though it's painful sometimes. I did have to leave my last job. It was too much for me. The cases I had were too raw and my little one needed me more than ever at the time. This job is more balanced, but I still get cases that feel like needles to the heart. Anywho... high five, fellow social worker. Smile

(June 7, 2017 at 5:54 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Fuckin internet strikes again.

Belgian Social Worker, meet Taco Hottie, share your best practices and hot tips.

Jack, I am afflicted with the super empathy too. The only thing I can do is to list all of the things that I can realistically do to help whoever it is. If I am actually doing that, then I am able to reason my way out of taking too much on board. As you know, sometimes I fail. Wink

I've learned that you're just a big soft teddy bear with armor of steel. Such a softy inside  Heart  Tongue





(June 7, 2017 at 6:02 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Paraphrasing a study I read recently: Empathy is overrated!

 I have been a nurse for 25 years. Feeling others pain is too burdensome. Too much pain in the world. What proves successful in the long run is a passion for caring for others. That passion is what gets you through emergincies, tragedies, "complicated or toxic" people, burnout, stress, financial deficiencies and lack of benefits, bosses, etc. 

Also, It is good to remain objective at times and empathy can cloud your focus. Take, for instance,  performing CPR in front of hysterical loved ones. Caring is better. Empathy can be helpful later, in times of reflection.

That's why I want to learn what causes excess levels of empathy, so I can learn to live better. I understand what too much of it can do negatively, but I want to understand why it happens in the first place.

I think I have been pretty reasonable in my quest for enlightenment in this subject so far. I've gone to therapy. I excepted medication. I've analyzed my triggers, reactions, behavior, past, etc. I've tried just sucking it up. Thing is that I feel it's more complex than that. I see it in myself and my son.

Say my car doesn't start in the morning. Say I know it's because the battery died. I get a new battery, but it happens again every day for three days. I know the battery dies. I know I need to have a good battery. I know my car can't run without it. What is causing it to die on me every day? If I can find out what causes it, I might be able to prevent another dead battery.

Hope I made more sense lol

And thanks everyone! I'm thankful for your responses.
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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Messages In This Thread
The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 7, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Aroura - June 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 7, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by brewer - June 7, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Jackalope - June 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 7, 2017 at 4:14 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by brewer - June 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 8, 2017 at 2:43 am
RE: The empathy factor - by brewer - June 8, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 8, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by brewer - June 8, 2017 at 6:36 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Mr.Obvious - June 9, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: The empathy factor - by Aroura - June 7, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by vorlon13 - June 7, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Jackalope - June 7, 2017 at 4:39 pm
The empathy factor - by LadyForCamus - June 7, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Mr.Obvious - June 7, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by SteelCurtain - June 7, 2017 at 5:54 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by J a c k - June 7, 2017 at 5:58 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by brewer - June 7, 2017 at 6:02 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by chimp3 - June 7, 2017 at 6:02 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Regina - June 7, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by The Industrial Atheist - June 7, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Fireball - June 7, 2017 at 11:42 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by Silver - June 8, 2017 at 12:35 am
RE: The empathy factor - by Whateverist - June 8, 2017 at 7:48 pm
RE: The empathy factor - by paulpablo - June 9, 2017 at 3:50 am
RE: The empathy factor - by ignoramus - June 9, 2017 at 10:13 pm

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