(June 11, 2017 at 4:11 am)Mariosep Wrote: Okay, here we go to talk about what is existence from scientists, and I started with a page from the internet hits by Google on "scientists on existence."
But I notice that you all atheists want to talk about God not existing, so we have to bring in God also.
And one of you remembers that I said elsewhere in every page, that God is in concept first and foremost the creator cause of everything with a beginning.
There, we have three words we want to know the meanings of: existence, scientist, and God.
Is that all right with everyone?
This is an invitation for us all who are keen to know what is existence, what is a scientist, and does God exist, God from my part, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause of everything with a beginning, for us all to collaborate to resolve the meanings of existence, scientist, and God.
From my part, existence is the reality which reality is the object of a living man having awareness, i.e. being conscious of his experiencing the presence of the said object.
An example of existence is our nose.
Another example of existence is the computer monitor screen we are looking at to read this post.
A third example of existence is the rose in our flower garden.
A fourth example of existence is the sun in the day sky and the moon in the night sky.
What do you say, guys here: Do you have your idea of what is existence?
And please give four examples of things with existence.
When we have concurred on what is existence, we will go to what is our idea of a scientist.
And then we will go into working to concur on the idea of God.
Okay, guys here, please proffer now your ideas on what is existence, I have presented mine above.
Sorry, Socrates, you're going to have to establish some currency around here before you try to lead us around by the nose like this.
You've been answered-- scientists aren't in the business of explaining why things exist rather than not existing, at least not in an ultimate sense. There are Christian scientists, (many) material monists, spiritualists, and so on. But they all have one thing in common-- whatever they like to believe, or whatever they suspect to be true, they limit their professional views to those experiences which are mutual to all humans-- i.e. things we can all apprehend with our senses.
The farthest we've gone so far is back to the Big Bang and down to QM particles; these represent the current limits of our observation, and asking a scientist to speculate beyond that is to ask him not to do science.