(June 14, 2017 at 8:06 am)Little Rik Wrote:(June 14, 2017 at 5:18 am)emjay Wrote: @Little Rik. Something I'm curious about; you've defined how rebirth works in your view for humans... bad; devolve into an animal, neither good nor bad; no change, and good; evolve spiritually in some way into some higher being. But how does it work for animals in your view? Ie how does a dog, say, evolve (in your sense) into a human? What is a higher spiritual state for a dog?... what guarantees it an upgrade, downgrade, or no change? Eg what is a good dog that will be reborn as something 'better', what is a bad dog that will be reborn as something 'worse', and what is a neither good nor bad dog that will be reborn again as a dog?
Easy Em.
I already explained this point several times.
Is a pity that you miss it.
Never mind.
I will go through this topic once again.
Plants and animals are driven by instinct.
Whatever they do they never build any karma.
Mother nature drive them to do and to behave in a certain way.
There is no such a thing as a bad dog or a bad animal.
It is like your little little kids.
If they brake a glass you have no right to hit them but as soon as they grow up and after they develop
some consciousness they become more and more responsible for what they do and the karma law apply to them in the good or in the bad.
Humans have enough consciousness to distinguish between the right and the wrong so they are responsible for their actions.
Got it now?
Well, I'm sorry I missed it... but I can only read you in small doses

So non-human animals get an auto-upgrade, is that it? Is that straight to human, or is there a linear progression/hierarchy of animals that they have to go up through? Ie what is a 'worse' animal to reincarnate into and what is a 'better' one? Nature is a pretty brutal business all round but arguably some animals have it easier than others in terms of suffering, depending on where they are in the food chain etc. In other words, how does 'reincarnation allocation' work going downwards (devolving) relative to someone's bad karma in death? Is it based on the amount of suffering an animal would supposedly endure in life (ie quality of life) or is related to the animal's supposed degree of consciousness/intelligence?