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RE: Hello!
July 23, 2011 at 11:41 am
(July 23, 2011 at 11:22 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
(July 23, 2011 at 11:14 am)TheCarlisle Wrote:
(July 23, 2011 at 10:18 am)Ace Otana Wrote: The parents are not all knowing, they do not design their child. They can only influence his or her behaviour. God designed, created and knew of his creation's future. So there is no excuse.

So let me get this straight: you kill yourself and go to hell. But that was not your fault at all because you believe God allowed sin to enter into your life?

What?! Ok I'm going to see if I can make sense of that post.

Ok, if god designed and created everything and being all knowing, anything that happens is his fault directly. If he knows the results/outcome of his design and creation then he is to blame.
Just like if I created an RC for which I knew it will go and kill someone but continue to create it anyway.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Kinda confused with that post there.
I believe god allowed sin? I don't actually believe in god or sin. So I'm not sure where your going with this.

"Ok, if god designed and created everything and being all knowing, anything that happens is his fault directly. "
That was what I was trying to get at.
"First Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear." - http://www.gty.org/Resources/Articles/A189
Note that he says "trial." This shows that God's testing us, and it's up to us whether we pass or fail. Being omnipotent, He already knows what our final grade is.
Being omnipotent, He could have just said, "You, you and you are going to hell, while the rest of us be in eternal glory." However, that would make no sense to us at all, and that is why he created the earth to prove that His judgment is sound.
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Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 2:18 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 2:50 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Hello! - by BloodyHeretic - July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Hello! - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by Kayenneh - July 19, 2011 at 2:21 am
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 19, 2011 at 2:24 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 19, 2011 at 4:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 19, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 19, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 20, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by fr0d0 - July 20, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 7:33 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:32 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:36 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 11:55 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 21, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 12:14 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 22, 2011 at 12:48 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 10:55 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 22, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:33 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 1:10 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 9:58 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 10:18 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 11:22 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 11:41 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 12:11 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RE: Hello! - by Napoléon - July 23, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 6:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 23, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 6:06 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 22, 2011 at 2:29 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Hello! - by fr0d0 - July 22, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 22, 2011 at 8:32 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 22, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2011 at 8:13 am
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 2:25 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 23, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Hello! - by kriskiran - July 23, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Hello! - by bozo - July 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by kriskiran - July 23, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 6:43 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 25, 2011 at 1:51 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: Hello! - by bozo - July 25, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 3:12 pm

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