RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
June 27, 2017 at 12:52 am
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2017 at 1:01 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 27, 2017 at 12:33 am)bennyboy Wrote:That may not be the problem for you...but remember where I;m from. Remember where I live. The very idea is a problem to the bigots round hur. That's why I have no patience for them. I don't play the "I'm not a bigot I just play one on tv" game where people read from the bigots script and then express shock and surprise that anyone might think they were a bigot after having done so.(June 27, 2017 at 12:03 am)Khemikal Wrote: The position that cultural appropriation occurred is entrenched in fact. We've got a bunch of usual suspects here (and online, and on the teevees) who feel compelled to be clowns about it...but I actually reckon that you;re not one of them, Benny, lol. I'm just suggesting that you might have been had, by them.The problem isn't so much the idea-- of cultural appropriation or anything else. It's watching good positions become dogmatized and then turned against the same liberties they were originally meant to espouse that is the problem.
Quote:Ironically, the definition of bigotry is essentially the same one I give for fascism: "a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." My view is that white, heterosexual bigotry is now being matched by black, LBGTQ bigotry.If you say so....but I'd suggest that you might have been sourcing your news from bigots to reach that conclusion. It wopuld be an impressive feat if the minority oppressed somehow managed to match the majority oppressors for bigotry. That would have been a neat trick for the oppressed to have had up their sleeve throughout history. To be able to match the man who holds the levers of control.
Quote:I fully support and embrace every black person's efforts to find happiness and betterment in life. I fully support people in their efforts to define various parts of their humanity, including their sexuality or their gender roles. However, making their lives and views the new "right. . . just fucking right so shut up about it" isn't the right path, IMO.Not sure what that has to do with bigots trying to do genteel racism to people by pretending that cultural appropriation didn;t happen or was a good thing because we got stuff.
Quote:As for me not being a bigot-- I always just thought bigot meant "racist" until I just looked it up. But I AM racist, and sexist, and homophobe, and all those other things to various degrees. I know that many of the things I think are true are expressly racist-- like, I think black people on the whole are naturally more athletically gifted than white people are, and that Asians really are naturally bright.Two examples of racism that wouldn't draw much ire over here, even from blacks or asians. Meanwhile, some people do manage to draw the ire. perhaps it;s because their racism is less benign and more overt than your own? Or, you know....theyre just bigoty bigots bigoted against white heteros.
Quote:I find it gross when two bearded men kiss in public; frankly, it makes me kind of queasy. And yet-- I would fight to the death for a black kid who wants to study math, or an Asian with athletic dreams, or for the gay guys, to follow their own definitions of life and liberty.Good. The usual suspects wouldn't. They don't care. Racial apathy.
Quote:I would also fight to the death for my right to TALK about any of those things, or anything else, if I felt I had something others should consider. I'd rather be free than right, because I know for sure what freedom is, and I don't pretend to know what is "right."
-and here you are talking...and here they are talking. Bigots don't have the right not to be talked back to. They don;t have any right to not be called bigots, and they don't actually have a right to do genteel racism (though they always seem to think they do..you call them out on it and they yap endlessly about -their- rights...the irony obviously escapes them). That's not what american freedom is.
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