(June 28, 2017 at 2:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(June 28, 2017 at 9:49 am)SteveII Wrote:You mean, other than the pagan worldview out of which science arose....the one that didn't burn heretics for doing science - the one that both early christers and later catholics cribbed -their- science from?
Surveying all the world's civilizations up until that point seems to indicate that the Christian worldview was important in the development of modern science. At the very least, it was the most conducive worldview up to that point.
There is no version of history in which christianity can be called a friend or conducive to science. It was there, resisting science..at every step. It's still there, resisting science, at every step. Today, christers like yourself would like to claim what your forefathers attempted to abort as their own baby.
Sure, now that it's all grown up and christianity looks silly compared to it, you want a piece of the science action. Who wouldn't, but that ship sailed a long, long time ago. Yall had your shot. You blew it. No amount of faithful retconning will change that.
To be fair to Steve, and I already said it in a prior post. EVERY religion has sub sects or families and individuals that hate it when science points away from their club. Try telling a Hindu that eating cow wont cause them to be a lower life in the next life. Try telling a Jew eating pork wont kill them as long as they cook it properly. Even Buddhists have their superstition and to know that just travel through Asia. Some sects of Muslims and Jews require you to be buried within 24 hours. That is stupid if your loved one is murdered and you want law to find the killer. The ME cant determine a cause of death in that short period of time.
Most of the world's population simply buys the religions of their parents, but to say only Christianity is the only one that holds science back is absurd. Humans in general simply don't like their social norms upset and any religious person or sect or family will get upset if you tell them science does not match their superstitions.
