Is this homophobic?

[The Grand Nudger]

You have a very (no pun intented) black/white view of the world.

Not really, though It doesn't bother me to point out when something is black or white..such as whether or not a person is or isn;t a homophobe regardless of whether opr not they picket their senator to keep gays from getting married.

I'm going to tolerate just anything. I've made post after post after post after post after post on this forum, calling out people who I really consider to be anti-gay bigots, and I will continue to do that because that shit still affects me. I'm still a gay man, I'm still very annoyed and frustrated with people who go out of their way to bash people like me, and I'm still not going to be silent when I see real injustice towards gays.

Well, all of that injustice -stems- from people bias and prejudice.  Railing against the injustice while giving the underlying cause a pass...or even actively trying to be liked by those same people...I'm not telling you you can't do it or shouldn't do it (you do you)...but, temper your expectations.  You're not going to make someone with a pathological dislaike of you like you on the basis of your good character.  Your character isn't even an issue for them. 

At the same time, I have ability to look at the world and people with some damn nuance, and realise there are complex layers to this issue. There are people out there who simply don't understand homosexuality, because they grew up in a time and place where it was/is less accepted and more taboo. Yes, ultimately that comes from a place of homophobia. However, that doesn't mean that every person who simply doesn't understand gays is an absolute fucking monster, who is closed minded and unwilling to change their views. It also doesn't mean that a mere joke is on the same level as someone genuinely despising you.

An ability common to human beings, though homophobia doesn't seem to be that complicated, honestly.  OFC theyre nopt monsters....even the fuckin nazis weren't monsters.  It doesn't take a monster to do monstrous things.  I;ve said it before I';ll say it again -all- of our worst bigotries are as sweet and familiar as granny and apple pie.  All we have to do to ensure that they remain with us indefinitely, is give them polite deference.

Just a few short years ago, I'd say as recently as when I was a kid, it was still more taboo to be gay than it is now and there was still majority opposition to gay marriage. I can guarantee some of these people on this very forum, who are the loudest supporters of gay people now, were probably ignorant of it when they were younger. My Dad was one of those people, he didn't necessarily "get" gays, but when I came out? He tried so hard with me and changed his views, and that means far more to me than someone who gets on their moral high horse because they "got there first" with accepting gays. It shouldn't be a competition of who can be the most morally virtious.

Not getting gays and being a homophobe aren't the same thing.  I don't get gays either. Seems like a whole lot of peen to me, and by "a whole lot" I mean, routinely more than my own peen. Sure, you can change the minds of people who don;t get gays (though one wonders what that means.....?).  You aren't going to change the minds of homophobes.  Young racists, die old racists.  Young homophobes.........they do the same thing.

If you really wanted to talk about changing minds, it wouldn;t be an issue of accepting gays, just accepting people...what does being gay have to do with it...and it's not like anyone alive today can claim to have "accepted gays first" or by "accepting gays" and pointing out that a person s a homophobe is climbing on some high horse - the former is as old as being gay and the latter a simple statement of fact....so what on earth are you talking about?

Seems like the sort of friendly fire that homophobes and people who really -would- strip you of your rights have created as a narrative..to me. The "Is this/what is racist/homophobic about that" question strongly correlates with racists and homophobes. They seem to be widely unclear on some things in that periphery. That's not some round condemnation of a specific person or event, it's just a simple observation of a broad group of events and people. I'm willing to go out on a limb and suggest that you've noticed this as well?

"I just don;t want em in my house, what;s racist about that?"
"I just don;t want em in the bathrooms with me, whats homophobic about that?"

Cmon....gimme some sugar....