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An argument against Adam and Eve
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RE: An argument against Adam and Eve
(July 31, 2011 at 7:14 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(July 30, 2011 at 9:08 pm)Killman Wrote: My point is, they had no knowledge of the difference between right and wrong. God punished them for doing something that they did not know was wrong until they did it. Thats not entirely fair.
Right.

They knew full well that they shouldn't eat the fruit, and snake boy had to talk them around, mentioning the rule. They knew the rule and they knew the consequence. Knowledge of good and evil is something else. God told them they would die if they ate it, and they did: spiritually.

You say it isn't fair because they didn't know... yet they knew fully the consequence. Nothing was hidden. If I say don't put your hand in the fire because you will get burned, and you put your hand in the fire and get burned: is it not fair that you didn't have the prior experience of being burned?

Thats the flaw. They did not have the knowledge to tell the difference between right and wrong, so despite the threats, how were they to know that it was still the right side? Lets say you tell a toddler to not touch a hot stove for the first time, because it will burn him. This toddler probably does not understand the consequences. Then someone comes along and tells him to touch it. He touches it and he is burned, knowing now to stay clear. despite what the person who fooled him before says. He NOW knows that it is wrong to do such a thing. Instead, you throw him out your house for disobeying you. That doesn't sound too...parent-like, to me at least. I do like how you do see this just as a story though. Many see it as absolute fact.
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An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 7:17 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 30, 2011 at 7:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - July 30, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - July 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 30, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - July 30, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 30, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 8:01 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by BloodyHeretic - July 30, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - July 31, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 10:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - July 31, 2011 at 7:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Ace Otana - July 31, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 8:46 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - July 31, 2011 at 11:30 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - July 31, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Skeptic - July 31, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 1, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 1, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Judas BentHer - July 31, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 2, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Kayenneh - August 1, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Minimalist - August 1, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 2, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 2, 2011 at 1:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 2:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 3:16 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 13, 2011 at 6:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 3, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 12:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 2:58 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Cinjin - August 3, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 4, 2011 at 4:00 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 4, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2011 at 2:28 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 4, 2011 at 4:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 2, 2011 at 6:57 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Violet - August 3, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 3:55 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Faith No More - August 5, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 4:49 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Emanuel - August 13, 2011 at 5:24 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by orogenicman - August 13, 2011 at 5:46 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Tiberius - August 13, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2011 at 7:36 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Killman - August 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by Anymouse - August 15, 2011 at 5:40 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by DeistPaladin - August 15, 2011 at 9:01 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: An argument against Adam and Eve - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 9:16 am

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