A contradiction in the liberal view of gender

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I don't care about the wording of my statements or whatnot, I'm trying to understand this viewpoint. It seems like a contradiction between a proclaimed ideology and an expressed one.

The wordings of -your- statements?  I thought these were the statements of others, accepted by liberals?  If it seems like a contradiction, it's because you have a sloppy mind. 

Not direct, word specific statements, just ideologies. I'm trying to put into words the components of a paradigm that others have, but what I'm saying is it's not a super specific, word for word contradiction I'm trying to get at. It's what I perceive as a contradictory ideology. 

Arbitrary, and rather valueless. I don't think this ideology, call it what you like, finds stereotypial gender roles compelling.

Society, however, does.... as do gender disphorics.  If you have a dick, no matter how "girly" you feel...even to the point of wanting to lop of your business....will make others see you that way - and so you have to manifest or accentuate affectations suitable to the gender role.  

This isn't limited to trans, either.  As a male with peen, you'd still have to "act like a man" to be taken -as- man...if you feel like a man and want to be one...

......and if you don't.....good luck to you.  

It's a bit different for girls, I guess. I frequently ignore stereotypical feminine behaviors that don't suit my preferences/lifestyle and I've never observed anyone judging me for it. I don't think it's impossible for this to be the case.

Regardless, that's the contradiction. It's behaving against your ideology because of how society will treat you for it. I try to act upon my ideologies in my day to day life, so I consider it contradictory to believe something should be one way but not actually live that way.

Haha... it sort of has to do with what I'm studying. I'm a joint major between two faculties, Environment and Business, so there's a very clear distinction in my mind between the two factions and their beliefs. I'd suspect that is the origin of my phrasing. I've never specifically studied sociology, psychology, or ethics, so I don't think it would be accurate for me to apply this viewpoint to them.

lol, environment and business but no ethics?  Jesus christ...are you studying to be an oil baron?  

No, a renewable energy baron. Don't insult me by suggesting I have anything but disdain for fossil fuels. 
In all seriousness, though, I'm only halfway done my degree so I haven't taken ethics yet. Don't worry, I don't think they give you a degree without it.

I agree strongly with A, which is why B doesn't seem as pertinent.

Too bad you don't set the metrics of societal conformity and pressure, I guess?  

Who does?

I couldn't care less. But I don't think it should matter all that much if someone wants to be called a girl or treated like one.

So you don't "otherwise agree"  at all, you simply agree.  Problem solved.

I meant that as in: I don't really think it really makes a difference what gender someone is either way, and I'd try to treat someone the same way regardless of what gender they are or want to be treated as.