(August 23, 2017 at 1:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote: This doesn;t mean that I think theres some compulsion to succeed. Or that, when a persons biological sex is genuinely relevant, it shouldn't be taken into account - I don;t think that you should have to successfully see a biological male as a female, or vv...or that you see tham as "none", nor do I think that a biological male who identifies as female with respect to gender should have legally assured access to womens health services (that would be pointless, lol "hey doc, how are my non-existent ovaries doing today?") - but you can put forward the bare minimum effort, we all can, we all have an ethical compulsion to at least -try-...
Agreed.
Quote:...and part of that implictly includes not setting extraneous obstacles either socially or by law - or by advocating for shitty arguments meant to diminish the subject entirely.
I am disappointed that you continue to act as though me wanting to discuss this is somehow an attack on transgender people. I have no desire to attack any group, but this feels like an insult against my motives instead of my argument. Are you under the impression I think I have a shitty argument and I just want to diminish the subject? Have I said anything to suggest this is the case, or been remotely hostile or closeminded towards anyone?
If it's your view of me that I somehow know any better than what I'm saying here, you clearly have no understanding of why I brought this up, and I don't see any reason to continue discussing it with you. If you're not willing to accept honest statements clarifying the intentions and meaning of my question (ie. post #49), your premise is wrong.
