(August 2, 2011 at 2:07 am)Veracity Wrote: Hello there, this is only my second post here and I don't have a clear idea of how many christians hang around these parts so this could end up being completely irrelevant. Advanced apologies if that scenario plays true.
I've never received a straight answer on this from a christian. They either go out of their way to qualify a yes with a no, or say 'it would be against god's plan' and stop at that. Maybe I'll get some insight from some ex-christians here at the very least.
If you were present and capable of saving Jesus from his crucifixion - or at least capable of attempting, knowing all you know about the man, that he's your savior - would you try to save him from his fate? And just so it's clear, the question isn't about whether or not it's against god's will or plan, the question is would you save a man from murder that you consider your savior and reason for being?
Of course, this is obviously asked from a strictly christian perspective. But to set the record straight, as an atheist with absolutely no affinity towards Jesus, the answer is crystal clear to me. I'd save the man in a heart beat. So why is it that christians struggle so much in coming up with an answer for this one? Is it selfishness? Would they let the man they consider responsible for their 'salvation' die in order to receive said salvation?
Also, apologies if there's already a thread around here similar to this. I did search for it but came up with nothing.
Hope you find this answer to your satisfaction, first of all you are talking about time travel to the past and that's impossible so I could not if I desired to. But let's look at this as from the point you asked the question from. No I would not, why, because knowing all that I do of why Jesus died for me it would be an act of selfishness, to do what you suggest would be to make myself look and feel good, I would be depriving others of salvation not to mention my self. Who am I to interfer with what God has decided to do for mankind. Jesus explained to his disciples that He would be crucified and when the time came they did not try and stop it and neither would you, you as all others would have been shaking in your sandals as the Romans crucified Him, believe what you like, but the truth is you would not have, for the fear of your own life. Besides to be murdered ones life must be taken when one is unwilling to die, Jesus on the other hand said that he was willingly giving His life " no one takes My life I willingly give it in love for mankind." So you see I do not struggle with your question, I accept what Christ has done for myself and all of mankind.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
