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[Edwardo Piet]

That seems, and i mean this not be rude a bit of a cop out answer. For to say that the only evidence against it is that there is no for it is a two way arguement because i could very well say that my evidence for god is that you cant disprove it.

It's ok - I don't find you remotely rude. I'll just say that it's not a cop-out answer at all.

The burden of proof is on the believer. And you cannot prove a negative. I mean even the Flying Spaghetti Monster cannot be disproven (or Russel's Teapot) but this does NOT count remotely as evidence TOWARDS it? Does it (?)

Are you saying it DOES?

No, you need evidence FOR something first. Before you can have evidence AGAINST it.

If I say the only evidence AGAINST God is that there is no evidence FOR him, that is NOT a cop-out and NOT on even footing with saying that the evidence TOWARDS him is that there is no evidence AGAINST him...

Because otherwise, you could simply say that for ANY negative (because you cannot prove a negative). You could say that the fact there is no evidence AGAINST the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Zeus, Santa, Russell's Teapot or the Tooth Fairy counts as evidence TOWARDS them. And that, of course, is just plain ridiculous. The only thing needed to reject belief IN these things - is that there is no evidence FOR these things.

And if the fact that you cannot prove a negative is evidence TOWARDS those things according to you - and you end up therefore literally believing in them ALL - you'd of course, be seriously deluded. You'd believe in absolutely everything if the fact that you cannot prove a negative= evidence!!

The burden of proof is on the believer FIRST. Until evidence is provided - there is no evidence needed against BEFOREHAND That would be silly.

How can you expect to have evidence AGAINST something - if there is no evidence OF that something in the first place!!

I believe that evolution does prove a plan. If it was just changing willy nilly i would agree that it was merely a generalized process. The fact that it changes, as need for something grows and need for others diminishes, proves to me that we have a "protection system" that we dont need to develop ourselves, unlike say immunity. Yes we are all designed to develop immunities but we dont all have the same ones.

Mutations are natural and random.. yes there are effective ones - but there's an awful lot of ineffective - bad ones - TOO.

The fact that what's efficient and what are the best survivors are what tend to survive, is because...being efficient and a good survivor - helps you survive!! Lol. So that's what is left over. Pretty obvious really. Natural selection. What survives survives - and reproduces. And what is good at surviving and reproducing is more likely to do so!! So the efficient and 'impressive' survive. 'Survival of the fittest' - natural selection.

And yes natural selection 'designed' our immune system. Natural selection 'did'. But it is design without a designer.

And yes all our immune systems are not exactly identical (we are different) - but that's because of genetics of course. People are different, there are mutations, etc. We are not all exact replicas of course.

And as for how the efficient survives - how the immune system has evolved to be so effective - well that's just natural selection again.

I'm sure someone else could explain this better though. I only know the basics.

The fact that we all have the same "evolution sense" proves to me most definetly that there IS a higher power.

Explain please. What do you mean by "evolution sense"? The universe operates by natural selection ( I mean that's the way evolution IS) simply because...what survive survives! So what is best at surviving on average is what will survive - so on average you'll be left with the organisms that are best at surviving (and reproducing) - and the most 'impressive' at it, for example.

Even if there is no finalizedand perfected endpoint as of late, we know the way/plan of how to get there.

You know WHAT way/plan to get WHERE? Sorry but I do not understand what you are referring to.

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