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A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)

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RE: A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)

September 4, 2017 at 9:16 pm

(September 4, 2017 at 8:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I never said you have the same value to everyone. Nothing like that. I am saying we have an exact objective value irrespective of the value given by others.

That makes no sense. In order for that to be so, the "objective value" would have to be based on a non-sentient and fairly consistent standard, such as the mass of a protium (hydrogen-1) atom. As soon as you introduce sentience in any form, the value shifts to the subjective side because the evaluation is now tangled up with the values and perceptions of the sentient being.

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A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it) - by MysticKnight - September 1, 2017 at 2:59 pm

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RE: A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it) - by MysticKnight - September 1, 2017 at 3:33 pm

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