(August 2, 2011 at 2:07 am)Veracity Wrote: Hello there, this is only my second post here and I don't have a clear idea of how many christians hang around these parts so this could end up being completely irrelevant. Advanced apologies if that scenario plays true.
I've never received a straight answer on this from a christian. They either go out of their way to qualify a yes with a no, or say 'it would be against god's plan' and stop at that. Maybe I'll get some insight from some ex-christians here at the very least.
If you were present and capable of saving Jesus from his crucifixion - or at least capable of attempting, knowing all you know about the man, that he's your savior - would you try to save him from his fate? And just so it's clear, the question isn't about whether or not it's against god's will or plan, the question is would you save a man from murder that you consider your savior and reason for being?
Of course, this is obviously asked from a strictly christian perspective. But to set the record straight, as an atheist with absolutely no affinity towards Jesus, the answer is crystal clear to me. I'd save the man in a heart beat. So why is it that christians struggle so much in coming up with an answer for this one? Is it selfishness? Would they let the man they consider responsible for their 'salvation' die in order to receive said salvation?
Also, apologies if there's already a thread around here similar to this. I did search for it but came up with nothing.
what was wrong with the response "it would be against gods plan"? And Peter did try to save Jesus when he was captured but Jesus stopped him. Also anyone closely associated with Jesus at the time would have known because of the countless confessions from their saviors mouth that his whole purpose for being made human was to be murdered...i mean Jesus told judas to go and turn him in to be captured and judged and crucified and then he waited in the same spot for judas to come back with the guards? Pretty obvious that it was going down inevitably. So as far as a "straight" answer goes...i dont think thats what your looking for. I think you want a bone head lack of thought response from a lazy christian to all your bone head lack of thought questions... so you and all the other ppl on here can mock it. stop trying to pretend like you know or understand the complexities of gods thought process and choices or compare his to those of something that he made (humans). whether its true or not, if your gonna argue against the christians view of god then do it fairly... and that is that he is infinitely more complex and intelligent then us so thus having anything that you have ever questioned factored in lol
