(August 4, 2011 at 2:41 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:I follow there seems to be complete agreement between liberals and libertarians
Even they have defense establishments or war profiteering industries in their districts.
Oh yeah, which self-described libertarians would those be?
Quote:Void, you know how they say you can't really learn to speak another language unless you live there? I think you need, after the next earthquake, to come live in the states for a while. By all means, live in a trailer park in Mississippi for a couple of months...where you can learn about why jesus hates New Zealand ( wherever it is) and the French. Then come to Arizona where we can have a couple of beers and I'll introduce you to my Birther relatives. Then you can go to Iowa where they think Michelle Bachmann is presidential timber....and so on.
At the end of the year you'll go back to NZ and never dare leave its shores again....even if it sinks into the Pacific!
libertarianism is a political philosophy, not a language, people who are described as being libertarians are in general terms socially liberal, free market proponents and non-interventionist - You can no doubt find some who are varying degrees of one or the other such as "conservative libertarians" who are shy on the social scale or "left libertarians" who support more social spending or even public schools and healthcare, you can no doubt find some who believe absolutely stupid shit, that's true of any people who fall into a general description, but as an argument against the philosophy it's naught but an ad hominem.
I'd love to meet your birther relatives, it will be like visiting a zoo
Maybe afterwards we can go and racially profile some Mexicans.Bachman isn't a libertarian, go google "Bachman Libertarian", the third listing is the forums here... Yeah, the idea of Bachman being a libertarian is literally that bullshit, most of the results are from libertarians attacking Bachman - She is clearly a Neo-con, she's lukewarm on economic freedoms and absolutely abysmal as far as social freedoms are concerned.
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