(September 20, 2017 at 1:05 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Black Americans do not have an ancestral society because it was systematically removed by the slavers, it has nothing to do with race or with the relative imagined paucity of African society but the slavery that was inflicted on them.
I would assume that few black americans know from which particular tribe or empire their ancestors were stolen from.
You are right for black AMERICANS...
What about the black run countries in Africa Like the Democratic republic of the congo, or somilia, or any one of the other dozen or so failing nations that are black run without anysupport from a host nation?
Why do they also function (when compared to the western moden model) also behave in such a way that would indicate a general lack of social infrastructure? Why can't countries with intact ancestral societies not function as a first world country??? Let's take black out of the equation and fast forward to the iron age people in the oil rich countries that want to chop our heads off... Because in Africa you could argue the lack of natural resources to make those people a major player on the world market... So lets look at IRAN same problem, maybe not as young meaning they can socially organize into functioning groups larger than tribes or clans, but they still can not function in a westernized global economy, because they stopped developing in the iron age. and as such there is 2000 years of social infrastructure missing. Like wise that is why the majority of the African nations are doomed to fail, because they too are very young/new to modern western society and do not have the infrastructure to support such complex societies. That is why most military action are clan war lords against other clan size war lord.
This is the legacy that has been taken away from black Americans (until recently) and as a result no other group of black people have lived so well in the nation that hosts them.
Most of you act like most of africa is like Wakanda (the made up nation in the marvel universe where the black panther is from) A place far more advanced than any place in the western world. and places like America are the world's end for black people. In truth black people thrive here like in no other place on earth. Not that white people should be thanked. But at the same time I do not think white people should shat on because black people want to up hold a tribal soceity that does not help nor support the structure that proud black Americans live and coexist in. There should be no us and them. we should be americans.