(September 22, 2017 at 10:23 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(September 21, 2017 at 11:39 pm)Astreja Wrote: That's why I'm an atheist. No religion has a "clear proof." The most that one can hope for is evidence that the founder of the religion was a real person. There is no credible evidence for the existence of any gods. There is no credible evidence for any of the supernatural claims made by various religions. None.
You are atheist because you have not recognized the proof of God. If you reflected all your life, still, your reflection is not proof there is no proof. To God belongs the reaching proof, and it is up to him to keep it hidden or manifest it.
I recommend the Quran because it centralizes on the issue of "proof". Of course, what the clear proof is not something most people want it to be. They want to be something they own. Something they create and increase themselves. But the proof is a human, not an Angel, not some mystical reality that is not a living being, not a concept in your mind, not some algorithm in your mind, but a human that is a leader that is connected to the Highest sky to the lowest earth, and is door and Captain that will navigate society to justice. It was during Mohammad time him who would recite the Signs, and he is a reminder brought down, an instance of the written reminder in living form.
And if you really think about deeply enough, morality is not a dead concept, but a living reality. It's him the living human, he is God's command, the spirit from his command is him, the light brought down is him, the blessed tree that extends to all is him, and the loving fabrics that all relationships are asked by him, is at the center of it all, him. And the center source of this name and light is God blessing and giving sustenance, connecting to God and connecting others to God.
The name of God is a human leader, was so from the start even when Angels didn't know Mohammad and the family of Mohammad were that since they didn't take on physical form yet, and thought they were better fit than Adam when God created Adam, until they prostrated knowing his superior knowledge of the names, except the dark one Iblis who is a manifest enemy to humanity and is so now.
When you realize what morality is, what good is, what love is, what value is, the link of perception, the justice, honor, and importance of seeking truth and clear proof, and do away with the confusion of the grey muddy lake, it will become clear.
And that is why you fail.
As long as you bring a human into the business of the supernatural, you're falling head-on into a fallacy.
And to claim that one single special human that lived long ago was the one single unique perfect bridge between all of mankind and the supernatural is to just ask to be called gullible... or even stupid.