setting a watchman

[Drich]

Drich, you don't actually legally own your children.

Rand Paul speaking in the senate on the behalf of the great state of kentucky says otherwise.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/231...r-children

You have guardianship over them. Yes, the state can take them away at any time if you mistreat them.

actually that is not true. mistreatment is not the qualifier it habitual mistreatment with no means of correction, and at that point the state can only take tempoary custody of the children till the parents get their crap together.

Also, they are not slaves,

Understand this is my very point. I am showing you where we as people can OWN another person and it not be a chattle slave/roots type of relationship. If we can own our children and love them is it not possible in your mind to do this with another human being? especially if a man works along side of you as a brother? Again that is how 'uncle tom's" got their name. They were black slaves who were seen as family to white owners.

they are not relevant whatsoever to this discussion.

only if you close your mind and try and look at slavry in the typical black and white "slavery is bad m'kay, slavery is bad" world view. Because Again it is through our ownership of our children that we can show ownership of another human being is not an inherently evil. nor am I saying it is always good. Ownership of another is a morally netural experience. it is the circumstance in how one is obtained and treated that makes it a good or bad thing.

Of course, you may treat your children like slaves.

and if I don't? it doesn't mean I don't own them.

In that case, I'd like to know where you live so I can report you to the authorities.

1600 pennsylvania washington dc 20003
send the cops there.

There are so many things wrong with this argument, not the least of which is that slaves aren't all of a sudden free when they're 18.

you REALY have no idea what you are even talking about. Some slaves are worked seasonally, other get yearly contracts and still others get life long contracts so long as they can meet quota. for 45 million people slavery is not a bad thing it is the only think keeping them alive.

If you think owning a person is okay, you are a very, very bad person. No one has to assassinate your character. You've done it yourself.

Even if you want to play word games and will not take ownership of your children, I promise the vast majority of parents in this country will absolutely claim ownership of their kids.

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Children aren't fucking possessions.  You do not OWN your children, you have custody of them.  It's your DUTY to look out for their wellbeing, and they don't have a damn single duty to you.

see above