Evidence for Jesus outside the Bible?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

There are lots of people who call themselves Christian but who don't even know the requirements of being a Christian. There are many muslims who do not adhere to the tenants of Islam.

So now you know. It's lucky I'm here isn't it?

Your reference to genuine/true/ real Christians is a common logical fallacy , "the no true Scotsman". This fallacy is beloved of dogmatic believers everywhere, who insist THEIR version of Christianity (or Islam or Judaism) is the ONLY genuine/real/ true version.

Right now the US religious right is having a breakdown trying to distance itself (unsuccessfully) from that nutter in Norway using exactly that fallacy.. I have yet to see a definition of what constitutes a real Christian which is accepted by all those who call themselves Christians. Who has the right to say anyone who asserts "I'm a Christian' is not? You?

My apologies if I expressed myself poorly.Please see below.
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NO TRUE SCOTSMAN

No true Scotsman is an intentional logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it.


The term was advanced by philosopher Antony Flew in his 1975 book Thinking About Thinking: Do I sincerely want to be right?.[2]

Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."
—Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking

A simpler rendition would be:

Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.

When the statement "all A are B" is qualified like this to exclude those A which are not B, this is a form of begging the question; the conclusion is assumed by the definition of "true A".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman