Evidence for Jesus outside the Bible?

[Hannah]

....which goes to show your lack of understanding of the Christian faith, which I would like to reiterate I am nolonger a follower of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

All genuine Christians would willingly die for their faith...now and then.

I STAND BY THAT CLAIM.....ALL 'GENUINE' CHRISTIANS WOULD DIE FOR THEIR FAITH

I guess I need to remind that you that YOU wrote that just one page back, Hannah.

YES. I STAND BY IT. WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?

So when you say:

"What's your point? It says here that they gave Christians the choice between denying Jesus was their lord and living...and refusing to deny him and dying. "

I must ask you to make up your mind. Would they or would they not let themselves be killed for their stupid fucking god?

SORRY BUT I'M MISSING YOUR POINT. I'VE MADE MY POINT SEVERAL TIMES. MAYBE SOMEONE NEAR YOU COULD ASSIST YOU BY READING MY COMMENTS. THEY ARE PRETTY EASY TO WORK OUT.

IF you ask me there isn't any myth worth dying for but, then again, I'm not a "believer."

THAT LINE IS NONESENSICAL. HAVE A CUP OF TEA.



.....how can you criticise me for using the term 'real/genuine Christians' when you wrote this on my volcano thread...

Quoting you in my volcano thread.....

Interesting; I can't dispute that. I said only that Judaism was not monthotheistic BEFORE Exodus. In his recent book,"The Bible Unearthed" Israel Finkelstein reveals that he and others have yfound THOUSANDS of female deity figures all over Israel,dating to about 700bce. These finds indicate that although monotheism may have been the official religion by that time, many people still worshiped the old gods. (Obviously not true jews)'.

Can you please tell me what is a 'true Jew'? Please....don't...

The difference between a real Christian and a fake one is the real one is a believer and the other isn't. It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill! A good way to sort out the real ones from the fake ones is to hold a sword over their necks and say, 'Is Jesus your god, saviour and Lord?' That would be pretty efficient with a very low margin of error.

It's quite easy to tell in the church who's real or not, although it's only really known to the person. One giveaway of a fake Christian was at Easter when the woman next to me whispered in my ear, 'Just have fun Hannah. Don't bother with all this rubbish' while giving Jesus a look of disdain. I think she would have chosen life. My Christian friend Mary said only a month ago that, given the choice, she would give up her life rather than deny her faith....and I believe her.

What is so difficult about this dilema that has caused so many comments? I cannot see what is so hard to work out.