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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 30, 2017 at 4:50 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(September 30, 2017 at 12:38 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Oh yes I know the difference and you would too if you ever experienced Him. The reason faith comes first is simply because we are asked to believe in an unseen God, just as Jesus said blessed are those who believe in Me without seeing Me, blessed I am. You can't get past ownership of something you in actuality do not own, once you over come that you might see things differently.

Except lots of atheists on this forum believed the same confidence trick that you do. They were just as convinced as you that they had experienced your god and then later realised, unlike you, that it was all bollocks.

All the answers that you have given me above are based on believing in this confidence trick and you can't back up any of it. You make plenty of assertions, such as about your god but provide absolutely no evidence. As Hitchins said, that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You say 'Many highly educated doctors have said that the healing can only be explained as a miracle' but provide no evidence for this statement. I'd certainly find a different doctor if my one said that to me.

You would be jumping for joy if it were an incurable cancer that just went away over night. As for Hitchins that's just his opinion because he can't disprove God and needed a confidence trick to fool his followers. 

Mathilda Wrote:You say that I am asking stupid questions but they only feel that way to you because you do not have critical thinking skills and therefore do not question your assumptions. If they were stupid questions then you'd be able to answer them with evidence and describing plausible mechanisms involved. You can't. All you can do is assert what you have been told yourself and do not question.
 

I've questioned many things including parts of the Bible, God will reveal the answers when I ask, some confirm what I was taught and others expand on what I was taught and others give me new answers. critical thinking is a part of an Christians life who seeks the truth.

Mathilda Wrote:Does your god actually ever refer to himself as male? I don't personally know but I would be interested to see a passage in your bible were he does explicitly refer to himself as male. But again it's an assertion you are making without providing any evidence. You don't even try answering the question of why there a being can be something described as male if it's the only one that's ever been in existence. If it's male then it implicitly tells us that there are other gods who are not male., otherwise it's like referring to every part of the spectrum of light as purple.

Here's the stupid question again, you need to get over it. God refers to himself as male. Mt. 5:16, Mt. 5:48, Mt. 6:1, 4, 6, 8, 9, 14, 15, 18, 26, 32. I'll stop here if you can't accept this then we have nothing further to say on the subject. This is what God the son says and the Father also called Jesus the Son encase you do not understand son is a male term.

Mathilda Wrote:You don't provide any evidence that your god created you. Again it's just something that you have been told and are repeating without evidence. Yet there is plenty of evidence for evolution and development of complexity since the Big Bang.

God created all that exists, read the Genesis narrative. There is no evidence of the big bang nor evolution, evolution is impossible without new information being added to DNA and there is no mechanism for that to happen, seems the evolutionary scientist love to skip over this bit. The big bang is under question by the scientific world.
 
Mathilda Wrote:Questions are not stupid if you cannot answer them. Referring to them as stupid shows us just how deeply indoctrinated you are.
You mention Adam's body having a soul, but again, have just accepted this and not asked what a soul could possibly be. This is because you do nt have critical thinking skills. No doubt you would say that it's a stupid question, but at the same time be able to answer yet another seemingly stupid question.
 
You are really full of questions yet you do not ever accept  an answer. 


Mathilda Wrote:Your god's power is also indistinguishable from an illusion and you can provide no evidence that it isn't.

Since you do not believe in God I expect such a statement from you, being so you are not qualified to make such a statement and represent it as truth, it's nothing but an opinion you give to please the other atheist.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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