Evidence for Jesus outside the Bible?

[Hannah]

Ok, one last time.

Honest?

You stated that "genuine xtians" would willingly die for their faith and then, when confronted with Pliny's observation that they said "fuck jesus, Hail Caesar" you reply with:

It says here that they gave Christians the choice between denying Jesus was their lord and living...and refusing to deny him and dying. "

Are you asserting, at 1,900 years removed, a No True Scotsman argument? Because, if you are, I can tell you how that is going to work out.

Sorry. I don't know what your point is. Genuine Christians would be willing to die for their faith. They gave Christians the choice between denying Jesus was their lord and living...and refusing to deny him and dying. I've just put the two statements together to see what the problem is. I still cannot see what the problem is. Given the choice between life and death, genuine Christians would choose death rather than deny their faith. Fake ones would choose life. What part of that do you not understand?

This horseshit about xtian martyrs winning over the Romans by stoically facing death for their godboy is a pile of shit. Xtianity grew slowly and only won out because it backed the right horse in a civil war. When given political power they used it to terrorize non-xtians wherever they could find them.

Can you provide historical evidence for your first point in the sentence above?

Hollywood is not a great source for actual history.

So don't watch films then. I haven't watched a film in years.