(October 4, 2017 at 2:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I didn't make any claims about the latter, I happen to agree.
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander though - if you're going to claim that Stalin's goal was to build an atheist state, and that is why he committed violence (it was not, it was a means to an end), then it's more than a little disingenuous to claim the same sort of violence perpetuated by religious powers wasn't for religious purposes (this also was, IMO often but not always also a means to an end).
Except I never claimed religious wars aren't for religious purposes. Chad was the one who tried to say the 2 are different, not me.
Quote:Thus the USSR became the first state to have as one objective of its official ideology the elimination of existing religion, and the prevention of future implanting of religious belief, with the goal of establishing state atheism (gosateizm).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion...viet_Union
Stalin is not the USSR. Stalin did not establish the USSR.