(October 13, 2017 at 10:40 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(October 13, 2017 at 4:28 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: But why do people deserve to be punished for believing in what isn't proven? What's so criminal about that?
Doesn't punishing people with hell if they don't believe put the onus on god to provide proof?
At least if he is a moral being? To say nothing of being the most moral being.
Evolutionist believe it's criminal to reject evolutionary science, believe me I've heard it many times on this site.
God says that one can look to nature and see that He exists. He gave His Son to redeem mankind.
Man brought sin into this world and only because God loves us so much did He give us a way out of sin. Man is the guilty party, we continue to sin every day defying what God did for us. He didn't have to it wasn't a requirement that He save a world and it's people from themselves, love of His creation is part of our saving grace. God created a perfect world and mankind has ruined it with sin and so the burden should be on us, however God took it on Himself to bring about a way for man to escape what he did.
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I don't think people should be punished for not believing in Evolution. As far as proof of god in nature, what would that be? A teeny tiny inscription in DNA molecules that says "I made this-god?" Saying god created it because it exists is not an argument.
As far as sin and hell goes, even if you ignore all the atheists (which isn't fair because there's no proof) what about people who grew up in places where Christianity is not the main religion? As far as they know they're doing right and may even be forced to participate in their religion. Do they really deserve to go to hell? God created all those people knowing he would send them to hell.
Now if Christian god gave the world real proof he exists, by that I mean proving it to everybody, from the beginning to now, there would be no atheists and no other religions. This should be well within his power
Again god has refused to give proof and I don't get why this is if he actually exists. I don't believe he does. It's not reasonable to expect people to believe in something when you haven't provided proof, and it's not moral to punish them when they don't believe.