RE: Euthyphro dilemma
October 17, 2017 at 10:36 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2017 at 10:40 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 17, 2017 at 10:28 am)Ignorant Wrote: 1) YES! Now stop right there and think a moment: x is STILL inherently good EVEN IF it is created. That means you admit that inherent goodness and creation are not mutually exclusive.A god can create a good thing. So can I. Neither of our relationships to those things are what makes them good, if the good is inherent to those things.
IF x is created, that means that its inherent goodness is DIRECTLY related to the way-in-which-it-is-created. You originally said that inherent goodness MEANS goodness without relation to god, HERE.
Quote:2) If I subscribed to the idea that god's will is NOT determined by his intellect, you would be right. If my words make it appear to you that I do subscribe to that (despite my explicit rejections of voluntarism), then I apologize. Any creative act involves an act of divine will, yes, but it is not determined by the will. The divine intellect determines the will to create in just-this-way for the sake of communicating the divine goodness.Wonderful, and if the divine intellect recognizes the good.................then the good is loved by the gods because it is good.
The euphyro dilemma is explicitly asking whether good is recognized or created. That's why theres no escape, no third option. The third option would be that good is neither recognized nor created.
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