(October 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: No, it is not a catch 22.Yes, these three gods are indistinguishable:
Any god, who wants me to know he exists, and understands what constitutes evidence based thinking, reasoned argument, and valid/sound logic, would also understand my reasons for not being convinced he exists. He would also know how to convince me, yet he constantly fails to do so.
So, I am left with the following conclusions:
1. He doesn't care if I believe he exists.
2. He does not manifest in reality, therefore leaves no evidence of his existence. And is therefore indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.
3. Or he doesn't exist.
If he exists, yet refuses to demonstrate his existence to me, and is going to punish me for not believing he exists, then I want nothing to do with a god like that. That is an immoral god.
1) Absent
2) Indifferent
3) Non-existent
Technically and less plausibly I suppose you could ad 4) Hiding just to dick with us or more concisely, 4) Sadistic.
Nothing says god has to be present, caring, and existing ... it's fine if he's not, except that there are so many lavish claims / promises otherwise in scripture, that god, if it exists, is not only AWOL and uncaring but a bald-faced liar.